Heaven's Gate - Beyond Human

Beyond Human -- The Last Call - Session 1 (60 Min)

Welcome to Beyond Human -- The Last Call. We have a big picture to try to portray to you. You don't know us. You don't know what we represent. "Beyond Human" might say something, it might not, but it says a lot to us, and we want to share it with you. I've asked some students to help me, and you noticed on the opening title page that this was Ti, Do, and students. I'm Do, and sitting in front of me here are two students. They're going to play your part in voicing for you questions that might enter your head. They may not necessarily be questions that would enter their heads, because they have been students for a long time. But they will try to help me fill in the gaps and not have too big of holes in the subject matter that we are going to try to cover for you.

Well, I'm going to back up and give you a little history. In 1975, there were two individuals who held some public meetings around the country, and said that they were from the Kingdom of Heaven. Those two individuals were Ti and Do. Ti, my partner, who has returned to the Kingdom of Heaven, left me here with the responsibility of whatever is remaining of this task, for it was mine to fulfill. I learned in working with Ti as a partner that Ti is my Older Member. I know that doesn't make much sense to you. What is an Older Member? Well, I'll go back to saying that Ti and I, when we held meetings across the country, said that we were from the Kingdom of Heaven and that we had been given information on how to go from the human kingdom into the Kingdom of Heaven. At that time we called it Human Individual Metamorphosis. And as we held some meetings, quite a number of students, or followers, or curiosity seekers, just dropped whatever they were doing and came and listened to us, spent some time with us, a short period of time with us, in some campgrounds, and we talked about the Kingdom of Heaven - the physical Kingdom of Heaven, not a spiritual Kingdom of Heaven. Not that it isn't spiritual, but it is not etheric. It is not only spiritual, which represents the character of the soul, but it is a physical kingdom as well.

As we talked about that Kingdom to these students, after a very short time (and we had written a statement about it) these students took that statement and went across the country for 9 months, holding meetings in one little town, one big town, one little town, and one big town after another. Sometimes they got run out of town because people didn't like what they were saying. They thought that it was anti-Christian, or it was New Age, or it was blasphemous. It's easy to see how people could think that it was all of those things, though it was none of those things.

After that 9-month period of holding meetings around the country, Ti and I felt like we had instruction to call the students together and to begin an intensive, or in-depth, classroom training program. So all the students came together, and at that time there were about a hundred students who had survived the trek around the country holding meetings, who still thought they wanted to go a little further and see what else they might learn from Ti and Do - if we really had anything to offer - or if this was the time for their excursion to end. When we met with those hundred or so students, we told them that this was dead serious, that we couldn't take them on as students unless they were ready to drop all of the behavior that they might still be participating in that we knew was not common to the Kingdom of Heaven.

More and more, we stressed that they would have to drop that behavior (sex being the one that seemed to stand out the most, that people seemed to be so addicted to, and hard to make that transition from). As we really got serious about it and knew that that one had to go, along with other addictions - drinking or smoking or drug usage or needing to tend to old attachments or binds that still drew them to their particular interest - the numbers started dwindling. The classroom then ended up in the, oh, somewhere in the 40's or 50's, cut to about 50 percent pretty quickly. And then we started really getting down to the nitty-gritty. It wasn't that we stayed serious all the time. We had a lot of fun. Fortunately, if we hadn't had a lot of fun, we would have lost our marbles even more than we thought we had already lost our marbles, when we stopped to examine what we were doing.

During that time - for a long period of time - we were in tents, and maybe little trailers, or some little RV units, because we were staying outside and just moving to wherever the climate would permit us to continue with our classroom. Now, I have to bring up that this has a parallel to it that we have to examine.

Two thousand years ago, when Jesus was sent from the Kingdom of Heaven, He was sent for the same purpose. He was sent to say, 'If you follow me, I can not only make you fishers of men, I can give you the good news of the Kingdom of Heaven. If you do what I say to do, if you believe that I have the information that you need, you apply it to your lives and in your behavior, and you overcome the world, then you can go from the human kingdom into the Heavenly Kingdom and not need to return again.' In other words, the only reason you would need to return is because you hadn't finished the lessons that needed to be learned at the human kingdom. Another way to look at it is: you still haven't overcome the behavior in the human kingdom that is not found acceptable in the Heavenly Kingdom.

This is a big picture, and I'm going to have to approach it from many different angles, and try to keep putting little pieces of the pie together to help you understand it. I'm going to back up even further, before Ti and I made a statement that told about how we had come from the Kingdom of Heaven. In an attempt at clarity, or for the sake of understanding, I will in the following discussion identify as the vehicle (the person of the body) and speak of Ti as the vehicle (the person of the body). You'll later understand the inaccuracy of this approach, even though it's the only one that works for this discussion.

In the early 70's, for unknown reasons (and this is just my attempt to explain to you what occurred), for unknown reasons - things we could not understand - my life began to suddenly fall apart. It had been a very stable life, an acceptable life, certainly one that was considered legitimate and had respect to it in the community, as did Ti's life. And her life separately began to fall apart. We did not know each other. We'd never seen one another that we were aware of - had never met. Then in the early 70's, I think around '72, we met just perchance while I was visiting a sick friend in a hospital where Ti was a nurse. From that moment, my life changed - changed very significantly. I rebelled. I didn't want it to change, and yet I knew it had to change. And the conflict that was in me was very great.

The same thing was happening with Ti. She knew she had something to do with me. I tried to reject that idea. Ti was confused for awhile and wondered, "Well, why do I recognize you, and you don't recognize me"? And even though I might have thought I didn't recognize Ti, I knew that I couldn't cut it off. And yet here we had separate lives, separate careers, families, involvements in the world, and all of a sudden, just because we met, something was causing us to have to become more involved in spite of our desire not to. Not involved in a human way. There was never a coming together in that we were bed partners or involved in a physical relationship. But there was something that compelled us to spend time together and listen to each other, and search together. And we started searching Scriptures, we started searching everything we could get our hands on - New Age material, everything we could find that would open our heads. We realized that all of the searching that we were doing was superficial, that where we were really getting help and getting information was from what was being fed to us (mentally).

Now, we know, or we understood later, that what was happening during that time was that we were what is historically called "going through an awakening period." And that awakening period is one where it's common for the person who is awakening, for his life to begin to fall apart, or her life to begin to fall apart, and for them to suddenly just be in a whirlwind, in a state of total confusion, not knowing what was going on. There was a total change of focus - just dropping everything of the past and being absolutely compelled to go with this new thing that was happening, not even knowing what it was, fearing it in a way. And strange as it may seem, this kind of change seems to always cause all of the people in the periphery of your life to turn against you, think that you lost your marbles, you've gotten duped by someone who has a spell on you and will lead you down a crooked path, or into some sort of witchcraft or occult endeavor. And unfortunately or fortunately, that seems to be a common symptom of an awakening.

Now let's talk about "what is awakening" from a different perspective. Let's discuss reincarnation a moment, not the typical Eastern view of reincarnation or the caste system progression, or that you are going to come back in another life as a bird or a monkey or something of that sort. But we have to realize if you search even the Biblical Scriptures carefully, that you'll see dozens of very clear references to a good understanding of "incarnating," and recognize that certain individuals that had been historically recognized in Biblical times in the past - the people were always questioning, "Well, is that them reappearing? Is that Moses? or Elijah? or Who is John the Baptist, could he have been so and so? What did Jesus mean when He said, 'You have to be born again'?" But to even look at it more from common sense - which is often a good measure or good judge of the kind of sense that comes from Our Heavenly Father - common sense tells us that Our Heavenly Father would not put a soul into this world and let it spend a few months and then have an auto accident, and that's the end of its existence, and no lessons to be learned. If you search the Scriptures, if you really get familiar with God's Word, as people call it - the Bible - and I don't mean to say, "as people call it," I certainly don't mean that I don't feel that it is. Because it is the record that we have. It is the only authentic record we have of the Kingdom of God's relationship with man.

If you search that Scripture, you learn that there was a period in time called an "Age," prior to this Age. Now, what do we mean by "this Age"? We talk about this Age as though it is possibly this 6000-year period - the duration of an expierment by the Next Level - not the astronomical usage of the term "Age." And prior to this 6000-year period, there was, according to the Bible, references made to a previous Age, and some souls came from that previous Age. It also makes reference to an Age after this Age. So, with the talk that is so common this day and time of the "last days" or "the end of the Age," and some people even talk of it as the end of the world (when I'm afraid I don't feel that Our Heavenly Father has quite deemed the planet so ill that it can't be recycled, refurbished, cleaned up, restored). But I feel that we are at the "end of the Age" - I'm afraid I feel is right upon us. I don't want to sound like a prophet, but my gut says, and everything else that I know, points to that it's going to come before the turn of the century, that it's going to come in the next few months or next year or two. I could be off. Ti and I thought it was going to end within a few months - the age was going to end in 1975, when our students were out holding meetings.

Let's go back to the students for a moment. When we had those students, the ones who were faithful and stayed with us the best that they could, we received instruction. We clearly feel that our instruction came from our Older Member, or a member of the Kingdom of Heaven who was not in a human physical form, but in a physical form when the M.O. required it. Our Older Member gave us instruction to take those students out of the world and have them completely separate from their normal activity, from all of their involvements, and concentrate on the information we were receiving on how to overcome their worldly ways.

Now I'm going to skip back to "what is awakening" and the topic of reincarnation because they are carefully linked. Let's just talk in theory for a moment. If someone has an incarnation and they get into certain addictions, or certain attachments, whether it be people, things, pursuits, whatever they're motivated to be focused on, and motivated to pursue - when that lifetime is over, if the Kingdom of Heaven sees that they deserve more lesson time, then they are permitted to come back during that Age for Lesson 2. And when they "awaken," they reach the point where we could say they "jived" with where they ended the previous incarnation. They're a "match" at that point.

Okay, let's go back. Previous incarnation. I leave a life and I have this attachment - this habit, this addiction. I'm still hooked on this town, I'm still hooked on this family, I'm still hooked on my martinis, or whatever it is that I am still glued to. So I will probably come back into as many of those things that would fulfill the continuation of the attachments that I had when I left that incarnation. And if there are some that I can't fulfill or that aren't fulfilled immediately, I - my "computer" - will see to it, my "soul" will see to it - that those attachments are restored. Then at a given point, when I'm jiving with where I left off the time before, I am awakening. I am starting my new life. That might happen in my teens, it might happen in my 20's, it might happen in my 30's, might happen in my 40's. If by some accident or some fluke I'm sent out of my body, or I lose my physical body (or my vehicle, as we call it, because we don't relate to it) - it is not "me" that's lost. It's just a suit of clothes that I wear, a suit of clothes that they wear. We don't identify with the body, we don't listen to it. We don't pay any attention to what it says its desires are. We say, "Be quiet and I'll tell you when you get this, and I'll tell you what you're gonna get." Okay, so an awakening then amounts to coming to the station to which you have developed.

Now let's go back. If we're going to go to the Kingdom of Heaven, and the Kingdom of Heaven can't be entered as long as I still have attachments and addictions to the human kingdom, then I have to go back and whittle away at them and get rid of them. Now, Jesus' whole purpose for coming was in order to redeem man to God. I mean, let's understand that when Adam and Eve sinned, and sin continued, and continued, and continued, people fell. They fell more. They got their eyes off their Heavenly Father. They weren't that interested in what He desired for them. They were interested in what their desires were - the desires of their flesh, the desires of the things they were attached to.

I have to, for fun, or for seriousness, bring up a thing that just throws me when I hear preachers say, "Well it's a good thing Adam fell, because had Adam and Eve not fallen, where would we be? There wouldn't be any people in the world today." And yet I thought that God was a Creator. I thought that Adam was created. I didn't think that Adam was born of woman's womb. Nor did I think that Eve was born of woman's womb. And in no way did the Creator say, "I've only got two creations in My bag, from there on it's up to you," even though man was created with the choice of moving into his more animal nature and taking his responsibility of being reproductive in that way. But theoretically and realistically, the Kingdom of Heaven could have continued to create one individual after another who only wanted to please their Heavenly Father - not interested in getting my flesh, your flesh, two flesh become one. The two multiply and they multiply, then my responsibilities go to the ones that are now the household that I have - these little urchins running around the place - I have to take care of them. And I say, "Oh, but God gave them to me." He did give them to you, in that when you get into that and you succumb to that temptation, then you are responsible for what you have produced. There would be only one thing that would really free you of that responsibility, and that is if you turn to your Father and you say, "What am I going to do? I left you. I fell from you. I want to return to You." Then it would be up to your Father and you and that relationship to determine what those steps would be in returning to Him.

Back to Jesus. Jesus came in as an opportunity to redeem man, to restore man to God in a relationship that was pleasing to God. Now, a relationship that is totally pleasing to God would be a lifestyle - a complete lifestyle - that would be acceptable in the Kingdom of Heaven. It wouldn't have any human attributes or animal-type attributes that humans participate in. It would be acceptable in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus awakened at an early age. He had a series of awakenings. I'm afraid I don't feel He was never tempted. He was certainly even tempted after He had been off and had gone through His fasting and tried to experience the things that, religiously and historically in the Essene communities or in the orthodox Jewish communities, were saying you need to have a period of fasting - you need to get separate with your God, and you need to come to grips. He knew that something about Him was different. He didn't fit the mold. He couldn't say, "Okay Dad, I'll keep the saw and the hammer. I'll stick with you and we'll be 'Joseph and Sons Carpentry.'" He said, 'I've got other work to do. I have another Father.' He was awakening to the fact that He had a Father, synonymous with an "Older Member," to relate to in the Kingdom of Heaven. Because He was a child from there, to come and take a body here in order to teach here, and to fulfill an assignment from the Kingdom of Heaven, didn't mean that He then moved into the human world and adopted all of the human addictions, binds, and characteristics that are not common in that Kingdom. But He did have to come in human form into the human kingdom and be vulnerable and say, "I've got a task. My task is to get you from 'human' to the Kingdom of Heaven, if you follow me. Now, it's not going to do you any good, you can't even be a disciple of mine if you don't leave everything behind and come and follow Me." To be thinking like that and to have that kind of information in His head must have meant that Jesus had overcome the world previously. He didn't have unfinished overcoming to perform. I don't know if there are some aspects of His development that we have no record of - none of us knows whether He would consider some of the things that He had to learn as "overcoming." I would imagine that one thing He might have been tempted with, and it is so easy to understand how you can be tempted with it, when He recognized that in the Jewish religion, which He knew was historically the reality of man's relationship with God in their religious literature, to expect to find God's people - the ones that should be listening to Him - because He knew He was sent to update them and to help them get into His Father's House. So, He went to those people and He felt like 'You're the ones who should know what I have come to give to you.' And He told His disciples, 'You go and minister to them as well,' and very few of the religious people could accept anything that He had to say. Because it sounded like what He said was blasphemy, like He was trying to be God. And yet He was a Son of God. He had moved from the human kingdom into the Kingdom of God. He had overcome the human world. After He got to the Kingdom of God, He was sent to come back into the human kingdom and try to help some who might be lost get into the Kingdom.

A funny thing here is recorded in the Scripture and it confuses a lot of people, because you can't really get into the Kingdom of Heaven, no matter what you do, just on your own. It takes a gift from the Kingdom of Heaven to even get you with their Representative. It's almost as if the Kingdom of Heaven comes in and puts little, what do you call them? That they might put on an animal so that they can follow the animal, that a farmer might put....

Student: Tags, beepers.

Do: Yes, like a beeper or tag, or something that would enable the rancher or farmer to keep track of that animal and watch its development. In the same way, the Kingdom of Heaven can come in and observe the humans - can get a "readout" probably, and more likely, from their mode of transportation (from their spacecraft) can get this readout. And that readout says, "This one might have a good potential; this one still registers on my meter to have a lot of desire for goodness." And it might be pretty deep seated, it might be pretty hidden, and outwardly they may not appear to be religious or they may not have the obvious trappings or elements of recognition that would be seen as good. Humans can't judge that, but the Kingdom of Heaven can judge that. Then they give them a little "gift," and that little gift is almost like a little "chip" that's planted in their brain or in their body somehow. And - uh oh - when it's planted, their world starts falling apart. And they start wondering - "What is happening"? And the next thing they know is, "Goodness, none of that means anything to me anymore. I've got to go and find something. I don't know what it is that I'm out to find. But I've got to go and find something that's going to take me, I don't even know where, but it's going to take me further than where I am." And what is happening? They're awakening.

Those who became good disciples of Jesus, who really tried to overcome to the best of their capacity, those disciples then experienced their awakening and started a very strong endeavor of overcoming the world. As to how many of those completed that overcoming to the degree that was acceptable in order not to need to return, or whether even all of the elements that might be marked off the checklist were available to them at that time, is a good question to explore. If you study the Scripture carefully, it leads you to believe that possibly at the end of the Age is a time when even many souls that have done a significant amount of overcoming in previous incarnations will have to return in order to be subjected to certain elements that were not available to them previously. And in that sense, they were "born again," and are here at the end of the Age in order to, once again, have a last chance, as far as that Age is concerned. Now, whether it's a "last chance" from an "everlasting" opportunity or not is not for us to question. That would be up to the members of the Kingdom of Heaven to decide whether or not it's their last chance. From our point of view it's...well let's back up.

Jesus at one time told those who were listening to Him, 'If you believe on Me and if you believe that I was sent from the Kingdom of Heaven and that what I'm telling you is the Truth, and you stick with Me, and you strive to do everything that they tell Me to give to you, then you can be saved'! Now, what do you mean "can be saved"? It means that you might have previously had your allegiance more in another direction. "What? In another direction? Who's the focus of that other direction?" Well, here we get to a very delicate matter. How can we identify a direction other than the direction connected with the Kingdom of God, the real Chief of Chiefs, the real Almighty God, God the Most High God, and His household, His offspring, His children, His Representatives?

We've already discussed that we believe that in the Jewish and Christian literature, the physical record is there connecting those people with the real Kingdom of God. And they speak of someone else. They speak of an individual that was once in the household of God, in the literal Heavens, was a son of God and got too big for his britches, and thought that he could do a better job than his Father, or his Older Member. Not that he was born of a wife of his Father, because the body that he had in the Kingdom of Heaven was certainly not born of woman. Don't forget that in the Kingdom of Heaven, babies are born by the souls that overcome the human condition. When they overcome the human condition and then are moved into the Kingdom of Heaven, then they're "babies." And those that took them in are then like their foster parents or their keepers, their babysitters, their teachers, their rabbi's, their connection, their "piece of pipe," their link with the Chief of Chiefs of that Kingdom.

Now you say, "Well, if you get from the human kingdom to the Kingdom Above Human only when you overcome this kingdom, does that mean that when I die I get to go into that Kingdom"? Well, this guy that we were talking about that went astray from the Kingdom of Heaven and got too big for his britches, he started a whole other world. We call him Lucifer, or Satan. He didn't think he was a bad guy. He thought he was a good guy, thought he was a smart guy. But he went astray - got his eyes off of his Heavenly Father.

You know, there's a funny thing - the greatest gift that we have is also the thing that can do us in. And that is: we always have a choice. We can't even get rid of that choice. We're created with it. Our Heavenly Father, even in the Kingdom of Heaven, won't let us shed our option to go awry, to go away from our Heavenly Father. So, that means that even in the Kingdom of Heaven, we have the potential to get our eyes off our Older Member, our "link," our "connection," and go separately, create our own world.

You tend to think when you read in the Bible that you want to give yourself totally to God, you want to be a complete servant. You want to be nothing but of service. You want to be putty in His hands. You don't even want to exist. And that's the truth. You don't. You don't even want to have any identity. You don't want to be recognized. You don't want to be a leader. You've outgrown, you've shed that addiction to trying to be "Mr. Somebody" who makes a place. And yet, in that Kingdom, they say, "Sorry, you can serve Me, but you still maintain the reins on choices, options. You can't get rid of that. That stays with you forever." So then, boy! That really puts the pressure on us, knowing that that's something that we're even going to take into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Let's go back to the question that I thought might have entered your mind, "How do I get from this kingdom to that one? Do I die? And if I've overcome the world, then when I die, do I wake up in that Kingdom"? Well, it's an interesting question. There are two ways you can go. One is that that Kingdom can come and get you while you're still wearing this piece of flesh, if you've overcome this flesh and all of its aspects, and they were all available to you, and it was a time that that door was open. And they can come and take you, put you in their world, and you become a child - an absolute beginner - subjected to a whole new world. And it's true that some day down the line you might even be assigned a task to go back into a human condition in another Age or at another time.

Now, this guy "Luci," this guy "Satan," once he realized that his Heavenly Father kicked him out, and was not pleased with him and that he'd gone astray, then he even decided to try to work against humans ever reaching his Father's house, his Father's Kingdom. His primary effort was "How can I give misinformation to these humans to the degree that they won't ever know my Father's Kingdom" (or Luci's ex-Father's Kingdom). When he was cast out of his Father's house, he was cast down to Earth. If you study the meaning in the Hebrew, you learn that "Earth" doesn't just mean "planet Earth." It means everything outside of the part of the Heavens that is inhabitable by human species, that belongs to the Kingdom of God - all other physical parts of terra firma, whether it's planet Earth or other planets or other parts of the heavens. In other words, there can be what humans call "space aliens" that all evidence indicates to us are certainly not in our Father's House or from our Father's Kingdom. And so what are they? Their behavior indicates that they are humans, but they came from another Age, from another time. So, they are extremely more advanced, and they, without even knowing it, they can worship a false god, a false philosophy - wrong ideas.

And who is the focus of that false god, those wrong ideas? I'm afraid the kingpin is the same old guy - Lucifer, Satan. He says, "There isn't really a Chief of Chiefs. There isn't really a God of Gods. There is a 'cosmic consciousness.' There is a 'universal mind.' And you, too, can have that 'universal mind.' We're all gods. You can bring that 'universal mind' in and you can be a 'god' too."

Our Father's Kingdom says, "Hmm...if you're going to get in My House, you're going to get rid of all the characteristics that aren't permissible in My House. And you can't do that unless I send somebody to help you go through that overcoming process." Now, the Kingdom of Heaven did send someone a couple thousand years ago who told them this exact information. What did they do? They killed Him, because He went against everything that Satan, Lucifer, had said was right, was moral. "Luci" said, "Be a responsible person. Cling to this career. Cling to the family members of the flesh. Cling to all the responsibilities that you should. Be a stable humanitarian, someone that's reproductive both in culture and in physical nature. And, uh oh, we get into dangerous territory here. It even seems that all the religions that are not simply the Truth - the real honest-to-goodness authentic Truth (the facts) about our Father's Kingdom and how it relates to what all else is - that all other information (all other misinformation) is part of a false religion, whether it's titled this or it's titled that.

Now, where does Luci like to make his main camp? In the camp where the rightful heirs should be - among the Jews, among the Christians. So, how can he keep the Jews, keep the Christians from ever seeing his Father's Kingdom? By saying, "You don't have to overcome the world. Jesus did it for you. He did it for you." Jesus was sent to take you through it. Jesus was sent to tell you the truth, to tell you, "If you do everything I tell you, you can become perfect even as I am perfect." Not that Jesus for one moment thought that He was perfect. He measured perfection in that usage by, "I have sufficiently overcome this world. I don't need to be here. I have no binds to this world. I have binds only to my Father's Kingdom. There's nothing here that has anything for me." You can say, "Well, I don't have any ties to this world. I just do those things, they don't mean anything to me." Our Father says, "Well, I can believe that about like I can believe the person who has his three martinis every day and tells me he isn't an alcoholic." As long as you still participate in those things and they are a part of your daily activity, then you have a hard time convincing anybody that you have overcome those things. But Jesus said, 'If you do all these things that I have done, you can overcome. You can do much greater things than I' - knowing that growth was a step-wise thing. Because I'm sure in Jesus' eyes, His relationship to His Father was, 'Goodness, when will I ever grow to be like my Father? I'm so ignorant. I do things so poorly. I can't get them right.' And yet, of course, His ability to recognize His Father and want to be like His Father and realize that He is nothing but a child and that no matter how much he might have overcome of this world, He still sees that there is so much growth ahead of Him that could even help you identify that He is truly and actually a part of the Kingdom of Heaven, a part of the family of the True God. And it is the mind of that True God that has been passed down the steps, passed down from Older Member to younger member and into the individuals, and it begins to shine, and their humility shines. Now, if the humility is artificial, it's worse than blasphemy.

Okay, now this gets to a real touchy point. Who's Do? Who's this classroom? Do could say, "Oh boy, I'm this. I'm really a big shot." And yet I know that I strive every day to be more like my Older Member, and I know I am so short of being like my Older Member. Now, that doesn't mean anything to you, but as I mentioned to you that I recognize that Ti had more experience and was older than me, I could see Ti's control was better than mine and that I could learn so much. Even though when Ti and I first began to awaken, I wanted to stay in the limelight. I wanted to get equal billing. I wanted to be just as much a recognized representative of the Kingdom of Heaven, because I didn't have any better sense at the time. And Ti wasn't into saying, "Sonny, keep your place. Let me show you what I know." Ti knew that I could never buy it if she imposed it upon me. That I had to come to know it on my own by recognizing it.

Now, that's just to help you understand the relationship of a younger member to an Older Member. Anyone that has overcome the world more than someone else is their "elder," because they're moving out of the flesh family tree, or vine, into the soul or spiritual vine or Kingdom of Heaven. Don't get confused when I say "soul" or "spiritual," that we're talking about "etheric" because we aren't. But if they graft onto this other vine, then they relate each step up the vine with Older Members - someone who's overcome this level more and is more a part of a higher level.

Back to the big question. I'm afraid the fact that Ti and I expressed, in 1975, what caused us to retreat, or was certainly one element that helped us retreat quickly and go with our little classroom and hide with them and start their classroom experience, was because the last thing we could stand was to have people say, "Blasphemy! You say you're from the Kingdom of God. Who do you think you are? Jesus? Who do you think you are? God"? Because they didn't understand that the Kingdom of Heaven is a many-membered Kingdom and uses planet Earth as a beautiful, beautiful garden, a hothouse for souls - that only our Father can create. Who can then go through experiences, fall, be restored, connect with an Older Member, and overcome the world and even enter our Father's House as a member - a conscious, living, physical member in His Household, if they go through those steps. If they continue to stay on the track. Now, the track requires that you not turn against a "Rep." Anyone that Jesus came in contact with, including if someone was a student of Jesus' for some time, and then said, "Oh, I don't know, this is a cult, for me to follow Him around like this. And my family's griping and complaining because I don't give them any time anymore. Here I am, going around the country preaching about 'the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand,' and 'you've got to overcome the world' and 'you've got to come follow me and I'll show you how to get there.'"

Well, Ti and I were sent again, or the Next Level, the Kingdom of Heaven, chose to again "touch down" and send some "Reps" at the end of the Age. I know I sit here petrified because I know that there you are saying, "Oh, so you're the 'Second Coming.' You're saying you're the 'Second Coming.'" I'm not saying that Ti and I are the "Second Coming." We're not saying that we're Jesus. We're not trying to get you to buy that we are. We have nothing to gain - it is you who might have something to gain by that belief. However, all the evidence points to the fact that we are that "return" of the Next Level's presence. All we're doing is, we have to acknowledge the fact that we were sent from that Kingdom and that they gave us, and continue to give us, the information that can help you overcome this world now, at the end of the Age, and get out of here - not need to return. That you can sever from this world and it's done. It's for keeps! That the only reason for you to come back would be because you got an assignment to help somebody else come back to the Kingdom of Heaven for keeps.

So, what about those who followed Jesus for a while, and knew Him, and sat with Him, and listened to Him, and they say, "Aw, this is just another guy. It's a bunch of rumors, this nativity scene thing, and you know He is nothing special after all. I'm catching too much flack back over here in my little neighborhood town. I think I better go back there. And I am going to get back with responsibility, and take me a wife, raise me some kids. Get back into the mainstream." And it would have been better had they never known Jesus. Because then they turned from the "Rep," discounted Him. They would have never found that "Rep" more than likely, had the Kingdom of Heaven not come in and given them a little gift that translated to them as, "Whew! I don't know what I'm doing, but I gotta find somebody who's calling me, because I feel like a lost sheep." And here this shepherd, Jesus, comes in and they respond, and they recognize that they are lost sheep and they come together and, lo and behold, He's got what they're looking for. They didn't know what they were looking for, but He's got it.

Well, this little classroom that dwindled to 50, and then dwindled down to a couple dozen, have now reached a condition where they have overcome the world enough to relate in a position up a notch as Elders, or Older Members, to anyone else that they can help in their own overcoming. Yes, that means these two here who've been sitting here this whole hour with me and haven't asked me a blooming thing (laughs). But, I know they like to hear about the Kingdom of Heaven. And they know how filled I am with it. And I know how filled they are with it.

You know, we've been in a very strange position, in that for 16 years we haven't shared this truth. Oh, we dabbled in it a teeny bit on two occasions, very sheepishly, and realized that no one wanted to hear about it. And now, all of a sudden, we're getting instruction to give it out more clearly and this is what you're witnessing tonight - the first program, the first session, of a series on: "Above Human -- Beyond Human -- Last Call -- Endof the Age -- Last Call!"

We'll take this up in another session. And we'll have a series. I know I left a lot of gaps. They didn't help me fill them in too well (laughs), but maybe they'll fill in more the next time. I see these little papers coming up saying "10 seconds left." And we look forward to the next time when we can tell you more.

Beyond Human -- The Last Call - Session 2 (60 Min)

Welcome to Beyond Human - The Last Call. This is our second session. I'm going to assume that you've watched our first session. After that session, we got our heads together, watched the session, and tried to look at it from your point of view and determine where the big gaps were, and we've pretty much designed today's session about or around those gaps - the questions that might have come into your head then, or since watching yesterday's session. So, I'm going to look primarily to these students to help me with those questions. They've listed them, and we're just going to cover them one right after the other. Are you going to help me with this list of questions better than you did yesterday? (laughs) Student: Well, we're certainly going to try.

Do: Let's get started. What was the first question on our list?

Student: The first one that we have written down here is: as far as overcoming, how was Jesus' mission different from Ti and Do's?

Do: I know I could say this again and again, but that's a good question. I get uncomfortable comparing Jesus' mission to Ti and Do's mission because I know how precious Jesus' mission is in our eyes as well as in much of the public's eyes, and I know how offensive it could be to compare Jesus' mission with Ti and Do, whom most people have never heard of. But we have to address the question. Jesus, and Ti and Do, both came with the information that: "the end of the Age is approaching, and if you're going to get from the human kingdom into our Heavenly Father's Kingdom, then you're going to have to overcome the world. You're going to have to leave everything and come and follow me. And as a 'Rep,' I can be used as an instrument of that Kingdom to help you get into that Kingdom after you leave your humanness behind." That much is common.

One major feature is very different: It's certainly on the record that Jesus' mission was designed, before He came, that He would represent the purity that was required to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. In other words, this is the reason why humans say again and again, "I can never be like Him because He's so pure. He never sinned. He was spotless. He went through His whole life without sin." Well, that appears to have been the design. Not that I'm saying that He should have been sinful, for He had overcome the world. Prior to that incarnation, He had overcome the world. So, He did not need to get back into the world, even though He did need to awaken to recognize that He had come from the Kingdom of Heaven and what His mission was. That awakening was still difficult and painful and, I'm sure, trying for Him, because He knew how blasphemous it was going to sound the minute He began to express it.

In Ti and Do's case, it's almost 180 degrees in another direction. Ti and Do came, and first of all, our awakening was much later in the lifetime than Jesus', because Ti and Do met in their early forties and were as asleep as you can be at that time. But even a more major difference was that both of us were very much into humanness. This was the design. It was designed this way in the Kingdom of Heaven before we came in, because Satan had grasped onto what Jesus' M.O. had been. And the way that he could keep humans from thinking about their overcoming was to picture Jesus as someone that was so perfect that, since He died on the cross, He could redeem you if you just love Him and believe that He existed and accept Him as your Savior. That's the way he could keep you from relating to the fact that you would have to do what Jesus said and overcome the world also, as He did. Since Lucifer, or Satan, had done such a good job of having people relate to that perfection M.O., or that purity M.O. of Jesus' mission, the Next Level then said, or the Kingdom of Heaven then said, "Well, this time when we send Representatives we're going to do just the opposite. We're going to send them and let them get completely into the world to remind humans that you can be completely into the world and get out of the world."

I told you yesterday that when I met Ti, and even before I met Ti - I would say probably a year before I met Ti - that my life began to just fall apart. But the important thing is that it's common. As we discussed some yesterday, a symptom of a soul awakening to the point where it jives with its previous incarnation, a symptom that accompanies that awakening, seems to be a life kind of falling apart. Some souls, if they haven't overcome much in the way of human lessons, then their awakening certainly would not be anything traumatic. If they do not overcome their attachments, then nothing traumatic is happening, because they're not dropping those attachments at the point of their awakening where they would jive with a previous incarnation. I know I'm going way beyond the question that you brought up about the hole in yesterday's talk. I could go on with this one for the rest of this hour. Let's go to our next question.

Student: How did Ti's mission differ from Do's mission, since Ti left and returned to the Kingdom of Heaven before Do?

Do: Well (laughs), here we go again. That's an interesting question, too. That was a very tough one for me. And I think it was a tough one for Ti, because it came as such a surprise. I don't know why, but Ti and I thought that - we just knew, it seemed - that we would both be here for the full duration of the task. It didn't occur to us that one might leave prior to the other one leaving. Let's see, Ti has been gone almost 7 years - it will be 7 years this spring or this summer. When Ti began to see the signs of leaving her vehicle, she, I think, was puzzled, and I certainly was puzzled. But I must take this opportunity to relate to you that it didn't change her position at all regarding her devotion to her Heavenly Father and to this task. She didn't want to relate to the human connection at all, or to the flesh body's connection to the world. She remained perfectly steadfast to the mission that she was involved in, and in her partnership with me in that mission, and remained true to it every second. She didn't say, "What's the Next Level doing here? What's happening here"? Her only thought was to me, "I'm glad that you don't have to experience what I am going through." And the irony was that I was saying, "I wish I could be going in your place." That was no big, wonderful thing for me to say. It was because I feared being left with the responsibility of the mission with my partner being gone. And I did, I seriously feared it.

I have to stop here and address another question. Because you could say, "What caused Ti to leave her vehicle? What was used as the instrument of her leaving when she did"? And it was that the vehicle broke down. Humans would say that the vehicle died. How can we say that she "left her vehicle"? Because I know and understand Ti, and I understand Ti's relationship with our Heavenly Father, I know that she had within her power, or within her authority, if she chose to use it, she could have made the choice of when she left her vehicle or when she didn't. You can say, "Oh that's baloney." And that's fine if you want to say it. I know Ti. You don't know Ti. These students, they know Ti. But I know that Ti's thinking was to her Father, "I didn't expect this - that I would be leaving my vehicle at this time - but if that's what you have in mind for me, and if that's what you have in mind for Do, and for the class, then that's what we want."

I could see in Ti's eyes, I could read her soul, I could see mixed feelings. I could see part of her that was joyful in knowing that soon she would be out of the human kingdom. That portion of her mind that was here could be back in a vehicle that was appropriate for the Kingdom of Heaven and back in a closer, realistic, physical relationship with her Heavenly Father. And that couldn't help but be joyful. But she didn't want to think about that because she didn't want to shirk her responsibility. She was still "task conscious." She was still concerned with, "What kind of hardship is this going to play for Do? What kind of pressure is this going to put on him and on the classroom? Are students going to be lost because I'm leaving my vehicle? Are they going to slip into thinking, 'Well, Ti's died, and here's Do. So, this makes all this fall apart?'" And yet I know that she knew that if the students knew any of the truth that had been given to us, and that we shared an understanding of, that they would not look at it from that point of view. If they were challenged by that, then it was good that they be challenged in that way. If that was the point of their falling away, then there needed to be a point of their falling away. They were going to be challenged sooner or later with some test, because that's the name of growth - it's our being confronted with tests that causes us to either go forward, closer to our Heavenly Father, closer to the Kingdom of Heaven, or we are challenged with saying, "I don't know. Maybe I'm coming to my senses. I'll go recover my humanness if I can."

Back to your question. When Ti left her vehicle and returned, what it meant to me, even though it still breaks my heart to recall the experience, it very swiftly and very solidly put me on firmer ground in relationship to my Heavenly Father. It put me in a better relationship with Ti than I had before she left her vehicle. I know that Ti is still to this day my primary if not my total link with our Heavenly Father, the Heavenly Father that we shared in that task. I believe that we still share to this day the same Heavenly Father. But also in my awareness is that Ti is an older soul - a more experienced soul, has been given more knowledge, knows more, can make choices more quickly and more readily in the judgment that she has learned from our Father. This has done tremendous things for me to find myself, wow! - alone, as far as physically alone. My partner has left her physical body. It feels so funny for me to say "her" when I speak of Ti, even though she was in a body that had been a female. I say "had been" because she had certainly overcome any gender consciousness before going back to our Father's Kingdom.

I could go on and on, but it meant a tremendous growth opportunity for me and for the class. It tested me. It tested the class. And we're all 10 feet taller because of it. It put me in a relationship now, with Ti, similar to the relationship that Ti had with our Heavenly Father before Ti left her vehicle. If we ever came down to question, in our working as a partnership, as to who might have the last word, it was never fought over or debated. But it became evident after a period of time in my searching, not because Ti imposed it, but in my searching I recognized that Ti knew more. Therefore, she had a better, trusting relationship with her Heavenly Father. She could recognize His voice more readily than I. Rather than, "Let's see, does that mean this"? or "Do we need to try that"? She didn't need to do all the seeking and searching because the voice was clearer, the control of the "frequency," if you want to put it in that illustration, was clear. Had she not left her vehicle and put me in the position that I am now in, I wouldn't have this opportunity to really work, and work hard, on my connection with that mind.

When the class and my relationship with the class are confronted with questions and decisions that need to be made, I could easily say, "Oh, what am I going to do in this situation"? or "We'll do this or we'll do that." And the test always is, do I say, "Ti, what would you have us do? Your will, not mine, not ours." And if the class, and if I, can always connect with our Father's Kingdom through the link that we have, the closest Older Member that we have, that link is the assurance. Now I know that even if Ti got called on another task for a period of time while I'm in this position, I know that Ti's Heavenly Father, who also, as I said, is my Heavenly Father, even though Ti is older, I know that my best funneling of my asking, my safest funneling is to continue to ask Ti. The thing that could get me completely off the track is if I said, "Oh Father so and so" instead of going through Ti. I have learned from my experience that I must continue to ask my partner, "Ti, what do we do in this situation"? I don't always get an answer right away (sometimes I get no answer at all - it means the question isn't worth answering - or I might keep looking for what was wrong with that question), but I know it's my assurance of staying on track. So, to finish what I started to say, even if Ti were put on another task, I know that our Father would station someone, saying, "If Do says, 'Ti, what do we do?', that's when you answer - only then. If he says, 'Well, Father, what do we do?', don't answer, because he's going to get off track."

Now, boy! that opens another whole big question. Why would I address something to Ti instead of to my Heavenly Father? Ti is my Older Member. Ti is in the succession of relationship. In a sense, Ti is my Heavenly Father, even though I still relate to the Older Member that dealt with Ti and Do as a partnership. It's not that I'm elevating some human named Ti. That's just an identification that directs my asking to my Older Member and it is my safeguard for staying on the right track. I know how Luci can dive in and answer my call when I direct it to my "Heavenly Father," and I can feel that it's off track. Luci is not permitted to answer the call that I direct to Ti. That's protected for my sake and for the sake of my students. I know that's hard to understand, when you know how right it is for you to relate to your Heavenly Father.

Listen, I have to jump to another question now that I know is on their list, because this forces me into the question of what is meant when people say, "Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ"? The only ones who really had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ are the ones who were physically present with Him, and looked to Him, and believed Him. Now, I have to enlarge that picture and say it also means that those souls, after they left those vehicles in the time that they were with Jesus, they continued to have - as long as they had not turned from Him - and they continue to have a personal relationship with that same Soul [Jesus], unless the Kingdom of Heaven, or our Father, has put someone else in that position. And I'm certainly not suggesting that anything has happened in that regard in our presence here, or our assignment here. But I have to make the point, when Jesus said, "...if you do this in My name," He was talking about those who knew Him and believed Him. They were disciples. They were devoted. They were going to the Kingdom of Heaven via the "ductwork" of the one called Jesus. He was their "Rep." They accepted Him as their Rep and they were calling His name. In that same way, I have to at this time call Ti's name. I don't know, Ti could have been a return of that soul that was Jesus. It doesn't matter to me. You could say, "Oh, but it should matter." Then you don't know the knowledge, you don't know Jesus, you don't know my Heavenly Father, or you would know the knowledge that is given to me. Not because of anything that I deserve, but by Their choice. They, the chain of command in the Kingdom of Heaven, give me the knowledge as They gave the knowledge to Ti and Do, as they give it now to Ti, and as Ti gives it to me. And it is the same knowledge that was in Jesus. It is from the same Family, from the same Household. It comes down the same trunk and goes out the same vines. If you really knew Him or know Him today, you will know that we are of that same Family, that our information does not differ one iota, that it is the same Truth, just different vehicles, different Reps.

Now the position is a little different - and here's another question on your list - because we're at the end of the Age, and Jesus kept warning about the importance of the end of the Age. This is a big time here at the end of the Age. What is the end of the Age? Well, you know the hippies and the New Agers speak of it as when Aquarius is around the corner or "here we are at the year 2000 and this is the end of the Age." And it is the end of the Age. The end of the Age is likened to when the Kingdom of Heaven, and I must say in the same breath, not only the Kingdom of Heaven, but it's when the garden is harvested at the end of a civilization. How is a garden harvested? A garden is harvested by the ones who have a relationship to the garden - be it from our Father's House, or be it from those that are off the strain, off the vine of misinformation and connected with the one that we refer to as Lucifer or Satan, though they certainly don't know that. From their point of view, they're connected with the "Son of Light," the "Angel of Light," the "truth." They believe that truth. It has some different earmarks as we discussed. It has some earmarks of "Ye are gods," "ye are the cosmic consciousness," the "universal mind." Those earmarks are not found in our Father's House. Our Father's House has earmarks of "Creator," "Father," "Son" - the way the pipeline works down in relationship from the Kingdom of Heaven to the human kingdom.

Well, back to "here we are at the end of the Age" and it's harvest time. Harvest time means that it's time for the garden to be spaded up. It's time for a recycling of souls. It's time for some to "graduate." It's time for some to be "put on ice." It's time! I don't know all of the things that are going to happen at the end of the Age because that harvesting task is not one that I am participating in. I suppose that I would say that Ti's job and Do's job or our partnership task is "tooting that trumpet," or making this sound right here at the end that says, "Last call - if you want to go beyond human, if you want to not have this Age that we've been in here for 6000 years go down the drain, if you're connected, if you have received a gift that connects you with this truth, with our Heavenly Father, with the family of the Creator, then you have an opportunity to do it, to overcome the world, to move into that Kingdom permanently, not needing to return to the human condition."

I'm afraid I have to go to another one of your questions and this one is: Where does this idea of being "saved" get in there? Jesus said, 'If you believe who I am, and you believe what I'm saying, and if you stay connected with Me, if you do things through My Name, then you'll be saved.' And it's true. That doesn't mean that you have finished your overcoming. It means that you are not "wasted." Being "saved" means that you are not wasted. It also means that you are saved from not going with the crowd that's going with misinformation, that's going with all that is not true. Now, I do not know and I'm glad that I don't know who is saved and who isn't, but if I should know, then I guess then I will know. I only know what has been given to me. And it's given to me on their time table, not when I want to know it. All I know is what is given to me to know. And even when I receive what I think that they've given to me and I think I know it, as soon as they give me something else, I recognize that what I know was partially out of balance or out of sync. The next thing they give me makes me re-examine it and update it and suddenly I see what I thought I knew before is not that accurate, that the new perception is much more accurate. So, I think I know that, until I receive something else, and then I realize that that's the process of growth.

But here we are at the end of the Age. In a sense, when Jesus said you can be saved, it was not the end of the Age, though He knew it was approaching, and He knew from His point of view it could be right around the corner. He told them the signs of what the end of the Age would be, and according to all the people you listen to and all the prophecy that's going around, everybody says, "This is it. This is the end of the Age. We don't know exactly the hour and the minute." Unfortunately, the exact hour or the minute doesn't really matter that much. It is the end of the Age. What matters is where are you at the time of the spading, at the time of the harvest? What happens to you? Have you become something that's so worthless that our Father's House has no need of you, and He just recycles you as a part of His recycling environmental control for a possible new Age? Now, I don't mean "New Age" new Age. I mean His new Age. If He wants to use this garden as a hothouse again, then He can take the waste, including "soul" waste, including "vehicle" waste, and He can recycle it into a useful product for a garden to be planted again.

So, one question is: have I become something that's just going to be recycled as waste at the end of the Age? Or, might I become something that can actually complete my overcoming under the helpful guiding hand of "Reps" whose task is overcoming. I can help you overcome this world. I'll give you lessons. I'll be used as the object of lessons and put you to tests that I don't mean to put you to tests for. I don't even like to put you to tests, but I'm willing to put you to tests.

Ever since Ti and I have been working with the class, we put themselves and ourselves to tests constantly. Or let me say it this way: The Kingdom of Heaven puts us to these tests as we ask for Their will not ours. We don't ever design tests for students or for ourselves. They are designed for us and given to us. They always shock us. They're always a surprise - even to this day. Even though we've learned - "Uh oh, that's a test." We've gotten that far - recognizing "here comes a test." Okay, so one is: I can become "waste" at the end of the Age. One is: I can overcome the world with the help of those who have overcome the world. I expressed to you in the last session that I've gotten instruction that I can say to you that these students have reached a point in their overcoming that they can survive as beginners in the Kingdom of Heaven and not need to return to the human condition. In other words, that point of their overcoming is sufficient that they can move into the Kingdom of Heaven and take a physical vehicle that belongs to the Kingdom of Heaven. Wow! That's a big picture isn't it. Because that physical vehicle in our Father's House doesn't need to be reproductive. It's neither male nor female. It's got no gender, it has no race relationship, it has no allegiance to anything of a "plant." It has allegiance only to its trunk and vines, and Representatives right down the chain of command, or the step-wise relationship, or link.

What if I'm not waste, but I haven't finished my overcoming, and I believe that what you're saying is the truth, and I believe that I'm hearing the Kingdom of Heaven through you - that it isn't you, it is our Heavenly Father, it is the Kingdom of Heaven speaking through you, if I really believe it, can I be saved? That's your best chance of being saved. But I'm afraid from my point of view, I see that instruction still has with it that if you hear this information, there is just barely time for you to overcome. So, if there's time for me to overcome, then why am I asking the question, "can I be saved"?

Let's go back to 2000 years ago when Jesus said, 'If you believe on Me and you do to the best of your ability what I say to do.' He might as well have even said, "You may not have overcome the world sufficiently to not need to return, but you can be saved, because you're in the process of overcoming." And it was the same thing as saying, "If you believe in Me, and you are a disciple, and you've connected with the Kingdom of Heaven through me, then you will be taken to My Father's House and you will be put in the 'fridge' - or you will be 'put on ice' - until an appropriate time to replant you so that you can get on with your overcoming and arrive at the point where you can then move up, not needing to return."

If we're receiving instruction that even these students can help you, that there's barely time for you to do overcoming of your own sufficiently to not need to return, then why would we even want to think of, well, "Can I just be saved, without overcoming"? I'm afraid that I would be fearful that the One who was in the position of judging whether I could be saved, that His decision would be colored by my saying, "I'm not sure I can overcome fast enough, but will I be saved"? Wouldn't I want to be more concerned with, "Goodness, if I can do my dead level best, give it everything I have to be in the full thrust of overcoming, then I know that my Heavenly Father will not forsake me, would not lose me. If I recognize I want Him, I am a lost sheep, I am someone who wants to get back into His House, back into the hands of the Creator that made me..., if I give everything I have...." And I say the same is true for you, if you do everything you can do to get as close as you can get as fast as you can get, and not reject what the Kingdom of Heaven has given to you as the means for that help, then there's no way that our Father would discard you, or do less than save you from "the reaper" or from whatever catastrophes might accompany the end of the Age.

I'm afraid I've got to go on in this same context and say that at the end of the Age, not only is our Father's House a part of the reaping process, but so is Lucifer's house. It is Lucifer, don't forget, that says, "You don't have to do anything. Just believe on Jesus." And Luci has put himself right there in that position where he is calling himself Jesus: "I'm Jesus. I will tell you through your prayers, I will give you that confidence, I will give you that feeling of 'I'm saved by the blood of the Lamb. That's all I have to do.'" I hate to tell you, you're not connected with our Father's House, though you want to be. You want to be connected. Though you want goodness, though you want God, though you want to be a part of our Creator's Household - our Father, our Creator, has rules and says, "When I send you Truth, when I send you updates, when I send you information on how you can come into My House, you can't just relate to the information I gave 2000 years ago." Because you were the ones that deserved to receive My Father's Household, Luci dives in and he grasps you and he attracts you and attempts to get you hooked through misinformation. He even says, "Just call on Jesus." (But Luci would have you call on Him in the wrong ways - not call on Him the way Jesus said.) Jesus said, 'You've got to overcome the world. Come and follow Me. Leave everything. You can't even be My disciple unless you give up your whole world, leave your whole life behind, and come and follow Me.' Now, that's not just because that is what Jesus said, that's what any Representative from the Kingdom of Heaven would say when it's time that someone has a possibility of moving from the human kingdom into our Heavenly Father's Kingdom and staying there and receiving the rewards of that Kingdom.

I know this is hard to take. And I know if you were a devoted, a devout Christian and you're hearing what I am saying, that your head is being pounded on at this moment, and you're saying, "How do I know that this guy who's talking to me that says he's 'Do,' how do I know he's not Satan, he's not Lucifer"? You don't. Something inside of you has to know. Go search your Scriptures. Go get back in your closet and say to your Heavenly Father - reach to the Most High God - saying, "I don't want to settle for less. I don't want to just adopt this misinformation if it's misinformation. If I, too, must separate from the world, if I, too, in order to get in Your Household, must drop everything as the disciples did 2000 years ago, if I, too, must overcome the world, then please wake me up and let me see that and let me do it and lead me to it." I wish I could say to you that our Father's Kingdom has lots of Reps around with the information of how to overcome the world. Ti and I keep searching for them. We don't want to be the only Reps that are here at this time. I hope that we're not. There may be others, but we haven't found them yet.

I know how hidden we have been. Maybe they (other Reps) are hidden. Maybe they're with classrooms that will surface, and they know the same Truth. Do you think Ti and I wouldn't welcome it, and applaud and say hooray,...ray,...ray, here's somebody else who's from the Kingdom of Heaven, and knows the same formula, and is offering this same formula? For we do know one thing: you have to overcome the world. You have to separate from the world. You can't take any of the ties to this world with you into that world without knowing that you're going to have to return and sever them eventually if you expect to gain membership in that Kingdom and serve in that Kingdom as a member of that Kingdom.

The human kingdom is not where your major service is. That's part of "misinformation." The human kingdom is a lesson ground. It's for "hard knocks." It's designed that nothing work so that you would look for your Heavenly Father. No matter what Luci tries, it doesn't work. The only way he gets you is to have you accept all the misinformation as truth. He says, "If you live a good life, if you take care of your family, you set aside the money, you buy your insurance policies, you leave a nice trust fund so that the kids' college is paid for; and when I go, then my wife is taken care of; and when she goes, the kids are taken care of; and we go to death with no fear because we know that we died in the Lord." I'm afraid it's the wrong Lord. I mean, the Christians who are out there now are even saying, "The Lord wants you to have things. He wants you to have nice things." That's true, He does. But he doesn't want you to pursue them. He doesn't want you to pursue them. He says, "Don't pursue anything. Pursue only Me. Me! Nothing else. I'm sorry, you can't bring anything with you. Can't bring your wife with you, can't bring your kids with you." It doesn't mean your wife can't come, doesn't mean your kids can't come, but you can't bring them with you. You have to come alone, having severed everything, and your relationship is only with our Heavenly Father, saying, "You're all I want. I want nothing else." At that time, when you're in that mindset and you're willing to drop everything and leave everything behind, He sees you through it. You can't actually do the severing. He pulls it away as you ask. He pulls it a step at a time as you ask. And a lot of times the things that you would like for Him to pull away, He doesn't pull away that fast. Because He wants to develop strength within you, effort to continue to work against that thing and not give in to it, so that you get into His Kingdom with some "muscle," and some ability to have some significant service as a member of His Kingdom.

Well, sounds like it must be Sunday, or Saturday, depending on when your Sabbath day is, and I've gotten into preaching. I couldn't help it. But where did we leave off here? Who's next?

Student: It's going to be hard to figure out where it's best to dive in, but let's see.

Do: That's all right, let's go to our next question.

Student: I wondered if you could define the difference between the vehicle and the soul, just for a point of reference.

Do: That's a good place to start. The vehicle and the soul. There's only one place that souls come from - our Father's Kingdom. There's only one Creator in all that exists, and that's the "Top Man," that's the Chief of Chiefs, the God of Gods. And don't misunderstand that or find fault with it. I mean if you want to find fault with that, that's your choice. You can find fault with anything I say if that's what's on your mind - to find fault. There's only one Creator and that's our Father's Kingdom. And He teaches Creation. He made souls. Luci and his camp cannot make souls. What I left out that I started to tell you a few minutes ago is that here at the end of the Age, Luci is even getting members, an army, into his kingdom at the end of the Age - those he really wants who have become good servants and have bought his misinformation. If our Father's House wants to, He can let those who have bought into misinformation move into his (Luci's) kingdom.

What we don't know is when Luci's judgment day is (an actual point in time). He's already received a sentence. He knows he's going to lose his life, his very existence. And his higher cadre, or his higher echelon of his officers, they're going to lose theirs too. But we don't know that our Father hasn't designed it that after that happens that someone isn't going to fall in line to replace Lucifer, or Satan, and his higher officers, and his whole "officer's candidate school," those that follow his misinformation as if it were the truth. But Luci wants souls. He also wants vehicles. Now, he has to indoctrinate. There's one big, big, big difference between our Father's Kingdom and Luci's kingdom. Our Father's Kingdom is not the aggressor. Our Father's Kingdom says, "Ask, and you receive. Seek, and ye find. Be quiet, and know that I am God." Luci says, "Hey, listen." He's the aggressor. He tells you what you're supposed to believe. He justifies his misinformation. He thinks that he's really great. He thinks that he's adding numbers to his "kingdom of heaven," because his "kingdom of heaven" is beyond the confines of planet Earth. I mean, the main issue of what's going on here in the conflict of good and evil is not just on planet Earth. That's insignificant in comparison. The main issue of even numbers is in the heavens.

Even at this time, when ufologists and the whole community of people who are so aware of space aliens, are asking: "Do they have a presence on this planet? Are there bases where they do genetic experimentation, and are they growing actual creatures there? Do they abduct humans, and do they do genetic experimentation? Do they also do artificial insemination with humans, and bring back the child and show it to the mother"? All these events have "surfaced" in the last few years. They're not the way of our Father's Kingdom. They are the way of these misinformation people who do not believe that they are misinformation. They are not knowingly misinformation. They've bought into another idea, into other information. We've talked about this in the class a lot. It's like our Father's "corporation" at one time was the only corporation. And at a given time, someone said, "Oh, I think I'm going to step out of our Father's corporation. I've learned a lot, but I think I can go further. I don't like the position I'm staying in. It seems restrictive to me. It seems that I am limited." Don't forget, we discussed the other day that you can't lose the option to think poorly. You can't even lose the option of rejecting your connection. You can't lose the option of rejecting the Truth. That option always stays with you, even in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Okay, here's this corporation that belonged to our Father's Kingdom and it was the only corporation at a given time. And then this member says, "I don't like this limiting, this restricting position that I'm in, because my Older Member...I don't think He's that smart. He holds me back. I could really be moving forward." And so he goes out here and forms another corporation. And he begins to do things and His Father says, "Wait a minute. You're not looking to Me. You're going on your own. You're doing something altogether different." And he recognizes that he's going different. He acknowledges that he's going different. Then at a given time, our Father's Kingdom, or the One [the Older Member] that was connected to Luci, the One that was His Father, said, "I can't let you come back into our House. I can't let you come back into our world." I'm talking about a physical place, a part of the Heavens, the physical part of the heavens that only those can go who are members of our Father's House, our Father's corporation, in His Kingdom - the one which belongs to the Creator. And He says, "I can't let you go on with your behavior and your thinking, and your renegade attitude, and your letting this ego come back in where you want to 'be somebody.' I can't let you come back into this place. I'm going to confine you to outside of this camp."

It's so easy at this time to be deceived. It's rumored that space aliens have even met with humans, have met with the military of different nations, conducted experimentation on spacecrafts, that governments have even agreed to let them do certain things as long as they give us some of their technical knowledge. How much of that is true, I don't know. I don't want to know. But whatever of it is true, I see all the earmarks of "the renegade," the misinformation. I'm just telling you that those who are misinformation, they do not know that they are misinformation. But they usually have bought an easier "out" that required less of them, and they were assured of self- elevation. In our Father's Kingdom there's no assurance of self- elevation. If you want to be a servant, you give up "self." You become nothing. You crave to be nothing so badly that you scream for even loss of "identity." And our Father's Kingdom says, "Wait a minute. Since I can't take away your option, your choices, then you're still going to have some identity. I may call you 'this' in this task, and call you 'that' in that task. But you have to have some sort of identity that I'll give you. So, I can't let you just give yourself to me and then forget about it, and 'you' are ended, because you're a servant. I permitted you to come back as an individual and be a servant. But if you want to be an individual and you're not pleased with the rate of growth as I give it to you through My Representatives, then you're going to go in opposition to Me. You're going to stray from Me."

So, there are literally many, many, many members now that are in the misinformation corporation, and they're serving (thinking they're serving the truth) the "universal mind," the "cosmic consciousness," the "we are gods." Even as you investigate space aliens, or their vehicles, you'll see things that you wouldn't see in our Father's Kingdom. Our Father's Kingdom doesn't make babies. They get "babies" from the human kingdom adults who have graduated from the human kingdom, so there's no gender. They don't have ties; therefore, there's no marrying, there's no little kids running around, even though there are "babies," because they are there for the first time. Now, I'm not saying that our Father's Kingdom couldn't certainly bring children in and families in for certain lessons that He might have on His agenda. Who am I to say that He wouldn't do that. I don't know what all is on His agenda, because that's certainly His mind, not mine.

I'm just trying to share with you some of the understanding that has been given to us on these important issues of: The Last Days, What is "being saved"? What does this period of time mean to me? If you're listening to me, I'll tell you that Luci and his kingdom have a lot of individuals who can work in the invisible, and who can pound on your head and say, "Don't listen to that! Don't listen to that! I've found the truth for you and I'll give it to you in the name of what you believed 2000 years ago." You've brought that "2000 years ago" into today and you're going to hang onto that history as if it were yours. That's true history. That was real. And it is yours. But when our Father's Kingdom sends new information, sends updates, new opportunities - if you were really connected with our Father's information, if you really knew the Truth that was in Jesus - you're going to see it here again. You're seeing that same Mind. What is in a soul is "truth" or "falsehood" - the mind of God or the mind of misinformation. That's the reason it boils down to - we're either for Him or we're against Him.

Well, goodness, we just got started. We haven't touched but two or three questions and somebody just held up a card - I saw it - it said 30 seconds. So, we're going to have to take up more issues in our next session. I'm glad that you have gotten these sessions, that you've watched this, and that you want to learn. I hope that the Next Level can use us as their instruments for you. See you next time.

Beyond Human -- The Last Call - Session 3 (60 Min)

Welcome to our third session in our series, Beyond Human -- The Last Call. If you watched Session 1, you remember that we thought that it was going to be a question and answer session with helpers, and it ended up being mainly listening to Do talk and we didn't get to questions. Then, when we realized that Session 1, after watching it, had ended up with so many gaps or big open spaces in our big picture, we decided to try in Session 2 to specifically address the helpers that are here with me to pinpoint and focus in on the obvious holes or gaps in the big picture by asking questions. Today we want to welcome these students. They are going to serve in that capacity. Why don't we just get started by giving us the first question that we put on our list. Student: Ok. Would you like to discuss the difference between the soul and the mind and the vehicle?

Do: Ok, that's a big one. I don't know where we'll get, if we'll get past that one. The soul, the mind, the vehicle. Even though we've discussed it a little bit before, we use the reference to this body that we're wearing - this flesh and bones - we use the term "vehicle" because it helps us separate from the body. So, vehicle, or sometimes historically in religious literature it is referred to as a "vessel." Whether it's a "vehicle" or "vessel," the term helps to get out of identifying with it. Where we get into trouble is when we identify and call this "me," because this is certainly not me if the soul has awakened. This is just a suit of clothes that I'm wearing, and at times it can be an encumbrance for me. It can be something that I don't want to identify with. It has its own desires. It's kind of like a living computer that doesn't ever quite shut down. Even when it's in a sleep state, it doesn't quite shut down. And it has desires that manifest in ways of wanting certain foods, or wanting certain experiences, or wanting to indulge in certain habits that it had been subjected to. It wants to do repeat performances in those habits, whether it's food or going places or seeing things or attachments or addictions. So, we'll use the term "vehicle" when we speak of the body that we're wearing.

Now, the soul. What is the soul? That's a good one. The description that we've been given to picture or illustrate the soul in trying to understand its relationship to the vehicle is to think of the soul as a "pillowcase" or a "container," even though it's an invisible container. It's a container that encompasses the space that the body takes up. Sometimes we feel that it encompasses even a little outside the space that the vehicle has. It's like a pillowcase or a container for the mind. So, if we're talking about vehicle, soul, and mind, then the flesh body is just a suit of clothes - a vehicle. The real "me" is the identity that I have awakened to that I know goes on, because I know that this vehicle is perishable, it can fall apart, it can die, it can return to dust, it can get completely put out of commission on the freeway. But "I" am something that does not die on the freeway. I am something that goes on. I am something that has more existence, even if the extent of your understanding of that is to think that, after the vehicle dies, the soul goes to Heaven. We'll discuss where it goes, depending on where you think it's going to go.

But here we're talking about identity or definition of terms. This is not me. This is my suit of clothes or this is my vehicle. I am the soul. Now, what is in the soul, or what occupies the soul is mind. My mind? No, not my mind. I don't have any mind. So, what am I? Well, I'm the little switch inside that pillowcase, or that container, that chooses what goes in it. What goes in the soul, what mindstuff goes in the soul? If you go to the originator, as far as I'm concerned, or you're concerned, or these students are concerned, or anybody that's listening to us is concerned, there are only two sources - originators - of the mind that is available to us: the mind of the opposition (Satan) and his world, or the Truth, which comes from the Creator, the Kingdom of Heaven. Now, this is not truth in a philosophical sense, not truth in a religious sense, it's Truth in truth sense, as far as what really is - the accurate information, as far as you can understand. Of course, "accurate" changes as you learn more. Something becomes outdated as soon as you get some new information. As close as we can get to the Truth, the real Truth only comes from the source of the Creator, the Kingdom of Heaven.

Don't forget, we've talked about the member of that Kingdom of Heaven who was a soul, an advanced soul, in the Kingdom of Heaven. He separated from his Older Member, or from his Heavenly Father, went his own way, and formed his own "corporation." He had his own followers. He didn't like the definition of terms. He had a new truth. He was a counterfeit. Now, this gets into kind of a funny idea that some literature seems to suggest, that he is a "copycat" of Jesus. He is the counterfeit of Jesus. He's always trying to imitate Jesus. We certainly can't go wrong by looking at it from that point of view. I don't know if that in actuality occurred, but it certainly has been occurring ever since there was a Jesus, and, I would imagine, even before someone appeared on the scene 2000 years ago that was identified as Jesus. Before we had that identity of Jesus, Satan, or Lucifer, did identify as a separateness, a different kind of thinking, a different definition of terms - therefore, a mind other than the Creator's mind.

So remember, we've discussed how Satan, or Lucifer, and his camp are aggressors. They're not shy. They don't wait to be asked. They fill your head with ideas all the time and you think that you're having them, that these are your thoughts. The only thing that you can really identify with as "you" is when you question yourself as, "What am I looking for"? That's getting into the department of options or choices, which I know on our list of questions here is going to throw things off, because I'm suddenly getting into what is "free will."

People talk about "free will" as a doctrine or a concept. Free will is something that I have that I cannot get rid of. It is mine forever. As long as I exist, I have free will. Now believe it or not, Luci sees the Kingdom of Heaven as interfering with your free will. The opposite of that is true. The Kingdom of Heaven, even though it does try to get your mind off of yourself and bring you into the mind, the understanding, the knowledge that is in the Kingdom of Heaven, our Heavenly Father's Kingdom tries to liberate you from the misunderstanding, the wrong definition of terms, the wrong concepts, and bring you to the Truth - tries to liberate you from things that have held you in ignorance.

If there's one sin that Luci participates in - and all of his followers - more than anything else, it's misinformation, it's wrong usage of terms. Getting your eyes focused on, oh-oh, I was about to say, "the wrong god." Because Luci doesn't hesitate, he's not afraid of being blasphemous. He's not afraid to sell you a concept of god. He's not afraid of selling you a concept of Jesus that is completely off base.

Okay, we'll go back and review just for a moment. Vehicle - flesh body - nothing but a suit of clothes. Even though it does have expressions of desires and lusts and things that "I" have to completely ignore. I don't even listen to those thoughts. One of my tasks in overcoming is overcoming listening to any voices or any impulses that this body would give to me. In the early stages of that overcoming, I might hear that impulse, might hear it two or three times. I might even give in to it, and then be sorry that I gave in to it. So, I say, "Next time I'm not going to give in to it." The next time I hear the impulse of the body as it was asking for something that I had been told or been taught was inappropriate for me to participate in, I am a little bit more restrictive as to what I let the body get away with the second time. Eventually, if I'm getting control and I'm learning my lessons, because the way the Kingdom of Heaven helps us in our lessons is to continue to send us - the negative? Yes, it continues to send us the negative in order to give us - what do we have that's ours that we can't get rid of? - option, free will. The choice to accept the negative, listen to it, or get rid of it, control it, eliminate it. Now, that's a lot of steps of growth from first hearing it express itself and giving into it some and then regretting it. And so, when you regret it, then you go back and say, "Oh I'm sorry that I gave into it, can I start afresh"? - which is the same thing as saying, "Can I be forgiven? I want to conquer this thing, I don't want to just be victimized by the desires of this flesh or this body." Now, this is separate from the imposing mind of Luci or someone in the invisible who is assigned by Luci to get me off the path. And there is someone assigned by Satan, his camp, to get me back into their "corporation," into their philosophy, into their way of life, because the whole setup, the whole structure of this planet in this Age has become the way of thinking, the activities, the definition of terms of Satan's camp. That is what it has become. Didn't have to become that. It has become that. That's a condition. Our Heavenly Father has permitted it to become that because He gives us the knowledge of how to see it as that, how to work against it, how to even overcome it, how to rise above it.

In a sense, our Heavenly Father permits Luci to send someone to stay close to us, to keep an eye on us, to hammer on our heads, to even use the vehicle to send us impulses that we don't want to give into. In other words, to constantly challenge us, the free will, the choice maker, the one who can opt. Don't forget, we've got this awkwardness here. Here's this mind assigned by Luci's camp here, and this flesh here, imposing ideas on us that we didn't ask for. They just impose them on us. And then in order to engage the help we have from the Next Level, or our Heavenly Father's Kingdom, we have to engage asking for help. We have to acknowledge to our Heavenly Father's Kingdom and whatever help He has given to us that, "I listened to this impulse of the vehicle," or "I listened to that influence give me these thoughts, and Oh! They aren't your thoughts. I didn't get them from you. Help me not do that"! And so, when you ask for help, you get help, from your Teacher saying, "Well, I thought I had gone over that with you. I'll go over it with you better, and maybe give you more ammunition in warding off the imposition of those uninvited thoughts that encourage you into activity that is not from the Kingdom of Heaven."

Well, that's it in a nutshell as far as separating the flesh, or the vehicle, from the soul, that invisible pillowcase or container for mindstuff, realizing that mindstuff really comes from only two sources. But if you say, for example, if this whole corporation has many, many people working in it, and they work on many, many, many projects, then there are going to be a lot of different thoughts at different levels that come in that are from our Father's Kingdom, and therefore, that mindstuff is from our Father's Kingdom. Don't forget, that mindstuff comes only on the basis of our asking, our pursuing it, our desiring it. All this other mindstuff - from this great big "corporation," that's a giant "corporation," has many, many, many members working in it - is in opposition to our Father's Kingdom. One source (Lucifer) is the aggressor, and is constantly laying on humans what he considers the truth to be. The other source is the Creator, the One that created Truth, even the Truth itself, even the understanding, even the concept, but doesn't force it on humans. All right, do you see the conflict? That's what we're up against.

Another thing we had to take into account here is, the stronger I get, the better I get at my little choices. By learning this procedure of working against the negative, asking for help, and receiving it from the positive, or from our Heavenly Father's Kingdom, each time I go a step further and become more putty in the hands of this Kingdom. Because I'm trying to become a part of that Household, I have to get rid of individuality in the things that separate me from it, which Lucifer's camp considers to be good things - individuality and separateness and "do your own thing." Each time I get a little further, or a little closer to my Heavenly Father's Kingdom, what happens? Luci's "corporation" fires the guy that I overcame and sends a stronger one, a better one with more tricks up his sleeve than the one I previously had. And our Father's Kingdom says, "Don't worry. Don't worry. I even created those guys. I even created the options that they could take in going awry. I am the only Creator. So, for each right word or right definition of term, I also created a number of wrong definitions of terms that shouldn't have been used, but were there as options."

Wow! That gets into a big picture. How could that Creator have created everything that was good and created everything that was evil? No! Did not create one iota that was evil. But did create complete potential for evil, in order that we still have the capacity to maintain the one thing that He did give to us, that is us, that we can't even get rid of - free will, the choice of what direction we go.

Okay, what do you have on your list? Let's take our next question.

Student: I was wondering if you'd want to explain the difference in the terms Life and Death.

Do: Okay, that's an appropriate next question. Boy! Does that really fit with what we've just been talking about. Luci has this Age, this world, this society out there, as far as I know on every hemisphere, believing that death is the death of the vehicle - the death of the body. And that life is coming in at birth through a birth canal - that that is life and losing this is death. That didn't come from our Father's Kingdom. That's one of Luci's definitions. Study your Bible if you want to learn the proper usage of those words, and you'll very quickly learn the way our Father's Kingdom defined "death," in relating to humans, even in the Old Testament and even in the New Testament. Well, it's easier to describe death by saying that if someone expresses something that is not true, and has "bought into" the camp of misinformation, that individual is in a dead condition by the standard of our Father's Kingdom. That individual gets life once he goes out of Luci's camp and comes into this one. Or the reverse: if he's in this camp and he goes into Luci's, he becomes among the dead. If he comes in contact with someone from our Father's Kingdom, he recognizes that this is the Truth and he starts to go with it, then he has begun to taste of Life. Therefore, Truth and Life are synonymous, as far as terminology usage in our Father's Kingdom is concerned. So, death and misinformation are synonymous.

Let's go back to the previous question we were talking about. What's in this soul or this "pillowcase" for mindstuff? It's never all from our Father's Kingdom. It's never all from the misinformation camp, or from Satan's world. It's a composite. It's percentages. If I have enough of our Father's Kingdom's mind in there that I can begin to utilize it a little bit and it begins to shine through a little bit, then I'm not totally dead. And if I continue to engage it, then I begin to come more into Truth, more into Life, even though I've got a heavy percentage of misinformation still in there. You don't get knowledge from the Kingdom of Heaven by "Oh, I'm going to give you this beautiful thought, and this is knowledge." You get knowledge, you get lessons, you get information mainly by hard knocks. And the more you ask for knowledge, the more you ask for lessons, the more you ask for situations that will bring the Truth to you, the more you ask for every one of those, you're thrust into a situation and a circumstance where you're tested and, uh oh, you're tested. What am "I"? "I'm" the one who has free will. "I'm" the one that can take that situation and say, "Oh, this is horrible! What has happened to me? I'm set back. My world has crumbled." Or I can say, "Goodness, I didn't ask for this. This happened to me in spite of my not wanting it to happen to me. So, where's the positive in it"? And so I turn and I ask my Heavenly Father, or the clo