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Clifford the Big Red Bong
2007-06-30, 22:24
people keep asking me about my beliefs and im getting tired of typing all of this so ive decided to put it on totse so in the future and i can just copy/paste

let me start by explaining something. i know a person who is pyschic. now really i am very skeptical about that sort of thing. ive always believed it was possible but im sure over 99% of people who claim to have the ability are insane/bullshitting. but this person has proven to me beyond any doubt shes real. two things to note is that she doesnt make a bussiness out of her ability, and she doesnt go around talking about it. shes really just a normal person. also, and more importantly, i can litterly say "tell me what im thinking about right now" and she will always nail it perfectly.

what proof? tough shit. take my word or dont. i cant be bothered to prove something to random internet people. anyone who knows me at all knows im not the type to pull random stories out of my ass. even on totse i have never lied unless it was obvious i was joking around. its just not my style.

now it gets long and complicated.

theres no hell, and i feel theres no "god". "god" would be all of us. we're all oart of the same single consciousness. theres obviously an afterlife. theres no "rewards" based on what youve done in life, other than personal rewards. like self satisfaction for helping others, and also furthering your own spiritual development. also theres no "punishment". the only thing close to that would be dissapointment in yourself and knowing that others were dissapointed by your actions.

now heres how i feel about good/bad. it is possible to actually do bad, but in general i feel its very hard to. this is something i learned from my pyschic friend..

on the other side, before we come here, we plan out our lifes. there are certain things which we want to experience, so we set "life themes". we usually have a few themes. and more or less we plan them out with everyone who will be involved with our life. that might seem totally unreasonable right now, but your mental abilites are much greater on the other side. here we really are only super intelligent monkies, but on the other side we probably look as intelligent as a flower.

so we plan things out. the good and the bad. not EVERYTHING, we do have free will, which is why we can still do bad. but in general we know how things will go, and its exactly what we wanted to happen. its what we decided we needed to experience to further our development in certain ways.

now i think this is a good example of all that. take hitler. he seemed to be really bad from our current perspective. but in actuality, he was a very amazing guy. he helped out so many people in so many ways. the people effected "negatively" by his actions were in actuality experiencing just what they wished to. and it was all because of him. that single man made a huge positive impact on so many peoples spiritual development.


i shouldnt have tried to do this half drunk because i know thats real sloppy and i have a feeling im forgetting something important.. i will update this with anything ive forgotten and maybe tomorrow when im sober i will re-write it before posting it.

please note though that even though i have been drinking, ive had these views for a while. and no i didnt even come up with most of that stuff while i was stoned. im pretty sure a lot of that was inspired by my pyschic friend, but theres some personal ideas thrown in there (unless noted otherwise).

AngryFemme
2007-06-30, 23:38
i shouldnt have tried to do this half drunk because i know thats real sloppy and i have a feeling im forgetting something important...

The whole thing was somewhat of a train wreck.

Dark Angel
2007-07-02, 14:18
man, isn't it a coincedence that all the jews in the world decided that they wanted to be tortured, murdered, and raped in some sort of pre-life limbo.

in saying that hitler was right in killing everyone would be saying that i can be a good samaritan by taking my 12 gauge to the oldfolks home and just start blowing holes in shit. Hey, why stop at the oldfolks home, why not just open fire on the schools.

Standout
2007-07-02, 19:10
First and foremost all I want is an understanding. I don't really know what I believe anymore, I'm still young and trying my best to understand as much of this kind of stuff as I can.


Funny thing is I saw a pshycic in my area yesterday. This woman supposidly has helped solve murders and gets calls from all over the country, point is going by rep if anyone would make me believe and be legitimate this woman would have a good chance.

I've read so much in the religion forum here and I realize I'm not the smartest person in the world but I do think I've learned a lot, and all I want is an understanding.

Anyway I went to this psychic with intentions to make fun of a grown woman "playing magic", but I was swept off my feet. This woman knew so much about me, it was unbeliavable, I've torn apart my mind trying to think how she could have done this and I can't come up with anything. It has really made me step back and think.

After she told me enough about myself to convince me she was legitimate, I bombarded her with questions about the afterlife, soul, God, etc. She responded almost the same as the psychic you know. She said this is comparable to school, and we are only here to learn. When we attain a thorough understanding and only then is when we can die and move to a higher "plane". She said if we don't have a thorough understanding (this was unclear to me, I guess that means experiencing all of the "good, bad and everything in between"???)our soul willingly chooses to come back here in a more or less pre-determined life to learn a lesson and gain a better understanding. Eventually all of our life experiences here assimilate into our soul that ultimately ascends to a higher plane for all of eternity.

Thats just assuming all of this is true, which I'd like to believe because while many people look at stuff like this as a grain of salt, I think it's much more believable than man made religions.

I can acknowledge the fact that people here are probably astronomically more educated in these areas than I am, but all I want to do is try to understand this stuff as much as I can. This woman recommended a hypnotist that apparently can hypnotise you into a state where you can vividly remember your past lives, I am going to try it and if that appears to be legitimate I wont know what to really believe anymore. I never thought I could be convinced any of this kind of stuff was real, but honestly experiencing it in person was unbelievable.

Clifford the Big Red Bong
2007-07-02, 22:15
ctrl + f: slave. phrase not found!

:(

Slave of the Beast
2007-07-02, 23:52
ctrl + f: slave. phrase not found!

:(

Ok, now I'm really confused.

Thunderhammer
2007-07-03, 00:21
So where in your post do you address the structure of reality and how this particular reality came to be?

EDIT: Psychics exist within this reality, however this reality is not made up of psychics.

qazwsx
2007-07-03, 15:23
I like how in my life people I know can randomly slip into alternate ways of acting.. in a way that when described would make them sound crazy, but it always makes me feel like I'm the crazy one and the universe is just fucking with me..

for example.. who here that isn't an autonomous creation of my own subconscious would start accelerating as fast as possible in their stick shift down my residential, making quick elbow turns to get even more acceleration, then don a gaping smile and a non blinking 1000 yard stare and tell me "I didn't know where I was going I just came here" once you stopped at my house?

it's just people I'm on good terms with who will behave in (*no suitable adjective*) suggestively autonomous manners.. it's a seemingly rare phenomena as well..

and the worse part is that nothing in any manner of occult, spiritual or existential text I've ever read mentions anything like this (a large majority of what I've read is forum posts so that makes it even more fucked up, since if it happened to other people it might be a hot topic).

Clifford the Big Red Bong
2007-07-03, 19:02
Ok, now I'm really confused.

i wanted to see what you would say.

i cant believe you gave me + rep though! it makes me happy inside :D

Slave of the Beast
2007-07-03, 19:51
i cant believe you gave me + rep though! it makes me happy inside :D

Can't be vile to all the people all the time. What can I say, no one's perfect. ;)

ArmsMerchant
2007-07-06, 19:14
Deemed bumpworthy.

Bollocks
2007-07-07, 16:08
I've always liked thinking about if I was the only real person, and everyone else is a simulation of my mind or something.


And what if Earth is essentially purgatory? We're all beings from a different planet/plane/whatever who were "bad," but not enough to deserve damnation, and we came here before moving on. Not that I necessarily believe either of those, they're just things to think about, fun little mind-fucks.

Dark Angel
2007-07-12, 06:15
Right Now i am really regreting that i decided to have an alcoholic mom...

D-$tack$
2007-07-12, 06:23
people keep asking me about my beliefs and im getting tired of typing all of this so ive decided to put it on totse so in the future and i can just copy/paste

let me start by explaining something. i know a person who is pyschic. now really i am very skeptical about that sort of thing. ive always believed it was possible but im sure over 99% of people who claim to have the ability are insane/bullshitting. but this person has proven to me beyond any doubt shes real. two things to note is that she doesnt make a bussiness out of her ability, and she doesnt go around talking about it. shes really just a normal person. also, and more importantly, i can litterly say "tell me what im thinking about right now" and she will always nail it perfectly.

what proof? tough shit. take my word or dont. i cant be bothered to prove something to random internet people. anyone who knows me at all knows im not the type to pull random stories out of my ass. even on totse i have never lied unless it was obvious i was joking around. its just not my style.

now it gets long and complicated.

theres no hell, and i feel theres no "god". "god" would be all of us. we're all oart of the same single consciousness. theres obviously an afterlife. theres no "rewards" based on what youve done in life, other than personal rewards. like self satisfaction for helping others, and also furthering your own spiritual development. also theres no "punishment". the only thing close to that would be dissapointment in yourself and knowing that others were dissapointed by your actions.

now heres how i feel about good/bad. it is possible to actually do bad, but in general i feel its very hard to. this is something i learned from my pyschic friend..

on the other side, before we come here, we plan out our lifes. there are certain things which we want to experience, so we set "life themes". we usually have a few themes. and more or less we plan them out with everyone who will be involved with our life. that might seem totally unreasonable right now, but your mental abilites are much greater on the other side. here we really are only super intelligent monkies, but on the other side we probably look as intelligent as a flower.

so we plan things out. the good and the bad. not EVERYTHING, we do have free will, which is why we can still do bad. but in general we know how things will go, and its exactly what we wanted to happen. its what we decided we needed to experience to further our development in certain ways.

now i think this is a good example of all that. take hitler. he seemed to be really bad from our current perspective. but in actuality, he was a very amazing guy. he helped out so many people in so many ways. the people effected "negatively" by his actions were in actuality experiencing just what they wished to. and it was all because of him. that single man made a huge positive impact on so many peoples spiritual development.


i shouldnt have tried to do this half drunk because i know thats real sloppy and i have a feeling im forgetting something important.. i will update this with anything ive forgotten and maybe tomorrow when im sober i will re-write it before posting it.

please note though that even though i have been drinking, ive had these views for a while. and no i didnt even come up with most of that stuff while i was stoned. im pretty sure a lot of that was inspired by my pyschic friend, but theres some personal ideas thrown in there (unless noted otherwise).

I'd have to agree with you for like 98% of what you said actually....Its remarkably similar to my own beliefs but then again I'm always pondering.

Prometheus666
2007-07-12, 08:17
Ya' had me until the Hitler part, but I think/hope you just worded that paragraph wrong...

I have noticed there seems to be a certain "ebb-and-flow" to this universe: black and white, night and day, etc. From what I've seen, evil is what results from the lack of goodness just as darkness is the result of the absence of light. HOWEVER, one does not make the conscious choice to be evil. A person makes their choices based on what they believe is good. Even if a person does a "bad" act (cold-blooded murder is a prime example), they did so either in reaction to some change in their environment with little-to-no thought of the consequences (like someone scaring the bejeezus out of somebody whose carrying a loaded gun) or because the act was benificial to them in some way (i.e., "good").

Man, while capable of consciously choosing good, is incapable of consciously choosing evil. Even if they flat-out say claim they are evil-incarnate the statement is false, because they believe what they are doing is the right path, and is, therefore, good. Hitler's choices were made because he thought that what he was doing was good. He deduced his actions were for the benifit of the human race. Of course, they were not. His actions left chaos and death where there was once order and life, leaving the nation he prided himself as being the symbol of a desolate wasteland.

For the recond, I'm blind-stinkin' sober while writing this. Insane, probably, but not under the influence.

Strapping Young Lad
2007-07-13, 05:41
I pretty much agree with what Clifford said. The Hitler part was a bit wierd thoguh :D.

I've also been thinking about how our lives are planned before birth. To me it feels like we can do anything we want, but as if there are certain "checkpoints" we have to go through.

I believe there is a certain "path" - kinda like a "connect the dots" game, but we don't have to (and maybe we can't?) choose the straightest line to the next dot. :)

So, anyone have any clue on how to find out what the next cehckpoint is? Intuition? Meditation?

Whether all of this actually is true or not, it is sort of reassuring, thinking that this is what was/is supposed to happen.

PS. I wish I had a psychic friend like that...

HandOfZek
2007-07-17, 16:42
So some of us "choose" to be unhappy during our pre-lives? Is it to teach us an important lesson that has yet to be learned, or what?

I disagree with your perception of reality, but then again.. reality is perception.

At any rate: <3