View Full Version : Mac really that much better for music/graphic production?
laundrysoap
2007-06-29, 03:22
That's what I always hear, is it true and why?
I can go on and on & sound like a fanboy, but here, read for yourself why they (Macs) are better:
1. Core Audio:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/coreaudio/
2. Core Image:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/coreimage/
3. Colorsync:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/colorsync/
4. OpenGL:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/opengl/
5. Quartz Extreme:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/quartzextreme/
6. Unix:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/
Also, check out the new stuff (updated stuff) for Leopard, Mac OS X 10.5:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/technology/
Peace.
among_the_living
2007-06-29, 05:55
Try opening about 50 or more 10MB images in Windows and it will freeze....
Try opening anything more than a small movie clip in Windows and it will freeze....
Thats the difference.
laundrysoap
2007-06-29, 05:56
Try opening about 50 or more 10MB images in Windows and it will freeze....
Try opening anything more than a small movie clip in Windows and it will freeze....
Thats the difference.
Woah, now that's a bit much, don't ya think?
among_the_living
2007-06-29, 19:25
Woah, now that's a bit much, don't ya think?
What's a bit much? Its true :D
jebuonag
2007-06-29, 20:01
Hah, when is the last time Apple supported genlock/framelock or SDI output for HD? Don't expect it natively anytime soon until Apple starts providing better API support at the application-level, and don't expect early solutions to match the capabilities of their Windows-based counterparts.
Do I really need to go on, or do you just want to admit right now that you're making shit up? Nice try, but in professional broadcast production (for one) Apple's presence is very limited. This is not to say they're not decent systems otherwise, but you have absolutely no idea.
among_the_living
2007-06-29, 20:59
Hah, when is the last time Apple supported genlock/framelock or SDI output for HD? Don't expect it natively anytime soon until Apple starts providing better API support at the application-level, and don't expect early solutions to match the capabilities of their Windows-based counterparts.
Do I really need to go on, or do you just want to admit right now that you're making shit up? Nice try, but in professional broadcast production (for one) Apple's presence is very limited. This is not to say they're not decent systems otherwise, but you have absolutely no idea.
Apples final cut pro is used in large scale in the movie industry. So you fail.
MOST of the BBC broadcasters/journalists use mac software/hardware. I know for a fact.
the computer systems used at the TED (technology, entertainment, design) talks are mac.
And you still havent refuted my claim that if you open many many large SLR images in windows it will freeze up, where as in mac OS it doesn't.
jebuonag
2007-06-29, 22:23
And you still havent refuted my claim that if you open many many large SLR images in windows it will freeze up, where as in mac OS it doesn't.
Haha, yeah, I guess you win this one. Don't waste my time.
among_the_living
2007-06-29, 22:38
Haha, yeah, I guess you win this one. Don't waste my time.
Dont waste your time? youre on a forum for god sake, i think watching paint dry is one of the few things higher on the wasting time list.
From my experience i can not open a full card in windows where as in mac i can open them all effortlessly and it doesnt get anywhere near to freezing up.
dominic_arenas
2007-06-29, 22:40
In a word, yes.
Even PS CS3 is better on a mac
Haha, yeah, I guess you win this one. Don't waste my time.
Don't waste ours. GTFO of COM.
jebuonag
2007-06-30, 05:53
If I weren't here, you might actually be able to convince guys like laundrysoap that Windows will halt when you open several large images. As long as I'm helping to fix that, I consider it time well spent.
slickt0mmy
2007-06-30, 06:23
Hah, when is the last time Apple supported genlock/framelock or SDI output for HD? Don't expect it natively anytime soon until Apple starts providing better API support at the application-level, and don't expect early solutions to match the capabilities of their Windows-based counterparts.
Do I really need to go on, or do you just want to admit right now that you're making shit up? Nice try, but in professional broadcast production (for one) Apple's presence is very limited. This is not to say they're not decent systems otherwise, but you have absolutely no idea.
Hahaha, dude, you have NO idea what you're talking about. Professional broadcast productions don't use macs!? I guess my film school has it all wrong then! And NBC studios, which I've interned at for more than a year, is a little behind the times! <--the previous sentences were dripping with sarcasm (for all you slow ones out there)
Seriously, my school/work would NEVER be caught dead using Windows based computers.
Your argument=Fail
among_the_living
2007-06-30, 06:53
If I weren't here, you might actually be able to convince guys like laundrysoap that Windows will halt when you open several large images. As long as I'm helping to fix that, I consider it time well spent.
Go look at the Windows forum.
Windows halts just by the pure fact that it IS Windows :D
Trueborn Vorpal
2007-06-30, 07:28
Go look at the Windows forum.
Windows halts just by the pure fact that it IS Windows :D
Uh... That's quantum singularity stupid.
jebuonag
2007-06-30, 07:51
Hahaha, dude, you have NO idea what you're talking about. Professional broadcast productions don't use macs!?
I should have said professional HD broadcast production, which is built primarily on Windows-based technologies, and I noted that the use of Apple in this segment was limited. All of these things are true, but no one expects you to understand as an undergraduate in film school.
Regardless, we're straying from the main argument. Apple systems have no significant advantages over PCs for media production.
Okay, things may have gotten out of hand here.
Windows doesn't freeze up when opening large files, wether it be images or video. It is also a good OS for imaging & video due to the fact that Windows is installed on 90%+ of all computers, and any software you want to run will almost certainly run on it. I have XP Pro SP2 via Parallels Desktop. I was just on Windows a few minutes ago. It ran fine for me.
Macs are good also. They have great technology built right into the OS that enables a great user experience when working with images and video (take a look at the links I provided in my previous post for just a few examples). The fact that alot of people say that Macs are better for this type of work is mostly due to the fact the the GUI is well organized (at least in my opinion) and actually getting the work done is easier and faster (again, my opinion).
So...
Stop yer bitchin' everyone. Both are good for said purposes. It just happens that I prefer the Mac OS and how it works and how it helps me to work more efficiently.
Peace.
among_the_living
2007-07-01, 02:14
Okay, things may have gotten out of hand here.
Windows doesn't freeze up when opening large files, wether it be images or video. It is also a good OS for imaging & video due to the fact that Windows is installed on 90%+ of all computers, and any software you want to run will almost certainly run on it. I have XP Pro SP2 via Parallels Desktop. I was just on Windows a few minutes ago. It ran fine for me.
Macs are good also. They have great technology built right into the OS that enables a great user experience when working with images and video (take a look at the links I provided in my previous post for just a few examples). The fact that alot of people say that Macs are better for this type of work is mostly due to the fact the the GUI is well organized (at least in my opinion) and actually getting the work done is easier and faster (again, my opinion).
So...
Stop yer bitchin' everyone. Both are good for said purposes. It just happens that I prefer the Mac OS and how it works and how it helps me to work more efficiently.
Peace.
Try working with a large amount of RAW images in Windows and you will see why i said what i said. Then compare Windows Movie Maker to iMovie.
The core software built into the systems is what i was meaning, not other software like photoshop or other video editing programs.
jebuonag
2007-07-03, 20:27
Try working with a large amount of RAW images in Windows and you will see why i said what i said.
I regularly work with USGS DRGs and other very large datasets within ESRI ArcGIS on Windows, which are probably an order of magnitude larger than anything you've ever seen in your SLR images. No, Windows doesn't freeze up.
I honestly don't believe that you've ever used a computer professionally.