MIND MACHINES: Element Analyzer

[Distortion plus]

What I have been working on

So this is a follow up on past experiments I have been doing on mind machines. Machines which work based on our minds psychic powers.

How I found out about this type of science

It started to do some experiments when I found this rare book and read up on the hieronymus machine and the basic idea of how the machine works. http://lonezone.com/2000/pics/1600.gif

Experiment 1
I made a hieronymus useing nothing but paper and tested it and got no results

Experiment 2
Tested it on my cousin got no results

Experiment 3
Tested the hieronymus machine on my sister and got 100% positive results on a penny and another element to that was analyzed. I think it was a pencil. I had her look away and still got good results

Experiment 4
Made another hieronymus machine with string as wires and a thick sensor/stick/rubing pad. tested it on my sister and got negative results with a very few right results.

Experiment 5
Its been a while about 2 months or so but I ate at a restaurant today with my mom and sister. I was board and tried drawing a cup and screwed up and drew a box over the cup. I decided to see if I could create a completely made up element analyzer using some basic ideas I seen in other machines. I drew a gauge to give readings. A sensor pad and a coil to put the elements on. Believe it or not I got allmost 100% postive results again analzing a dime and a fork. The only time my sister analyzed the element wrong was when I went to the very top and the very bottom and she was geting a sensation on the sensor pad. I added a 1-100 scale to prevent that from happening again because I figured that the top and bottom must have been connecting before I added the numbers. So here is the machine I made. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g185/distortion_plus/scan0001.jpg where you see the + thats were I put one end of the crayon and used the tip to point at the different parts of the scale.

[Graah]

Good post. We need more of these. People actually trying things for themselves, and scientifically looking at results. I would ++rep you, but AM killed my rep because he didn't like the way I disagreed with him.

[Otsego_Amigo]

cool, so how does it work?

[Distortion plus]

cool, so how does it work?

Well I will try to explain the one I made. Print it out or draw one with a crayon and use the crayon as a dial. You can also experiment and set the scale from 1-50 or 1-25 and see how that works out. You put the element on the coil on the bottom and you use the rectangle at the top as the stick pad, which you keep rubing untill you get a sensation (this sensation verys with people). When You feel the sensation you locked onto the element. For this one I made, I used a crayon as a dial which I pointed from 1-100 for it to work haveing the other end on the +.

The amazing thing is the fact that I made this machine up and it worked. Note that these machines don't work for every one and is more likely to work for younger people. Also the reason that the line to the rubing pad looks bent wierd is because the original one got wet and I had to rip the paper and redraw another one. It would also be a better idea to work with someone else with the machines.


The Hieronoymous Machine Pattern
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If you would feel more comfortable useing the original machine here is a link to the machine which can be printed out .

http://www.geocities.com/c_cosimano/thehieronymouspattern.html

Here is a little info from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_machine

[RAOVQ]

i'm confused as to what you mean by element

[Distortion plus]

i'm confused as to what you mean by element

It can analyze anything but it is easier to analyze somthing that is composed of the same stuff, like a copper penny as compared to a cell phone. I just called it that to name it but you can analyze anything you want.

[Slave of the Beast]

I like the aims of your thread Distortion (as I interpret them). Though in terms of the validity of your results, for me the issue is cloudy as I'm uncertain with regards to your methodology.

Would you consider giving a detailed method, living it open to 'review', which, once the review is complete, proceeding with the agreed experiment and making a numerical record of your results and then posting them here?

[Otsego_Amigo]

so, you put an element on the coil, and the subject's finger rubbing the square pad. the subject can't see the element, and they 'feel' it through the machine, and guess what it is ?

and the dial is to control the 'frequency' or power of the transmission from coil > pad?

[Distortion plus]

so, you put an element on the coil, and the subject's finger rubbing the square pad. the subject can't see the element, and they 'feel' it through the machine, and guess what it is ?

and the dial is to control the 'frequency' or power of the transmission from coil > pad?

You can have the person rub the pad and have them look away and you can switch the element and do the dial adjusting to see if they are geting the same different numbers for the different iteams that are put on the coil.

[Distortion plus]

I like the aims of your thread Distortion (as I interpret them). Though in terms of the validity of your results, for me the issue is cloudy as I'm uncertain with regards to your methodology.

Would you consider giving a detailed method, living it open to 'review', which, once the review is complete, proceeding with the agreed experiment and making a numerical record of your results and then posting them here?

Alright I will try my best to explain the method I use and hope that others can try it out and post their results. I will also try to post accurate records next time to keep things in order. I will be unable to do testing for a while but will answer any more questions the best I can. I also apologize for my sloppiness in the way I have been experimenting and will be working on corecting it. I am open to anything sugestions.

I would also recomend having both machines ready for testing. Basicly they both can be drawn but I would recomend drawing the one I made with a crayon. The second machine I provided a link to has to be printed out with a printer and glued to poster board. You will then have cut it out and get a brad to connect the dial to the machine.

Method Used

1.Find a subject.
2.Choose an iteam to be analyzed.
3.Place iteam on coil area.
4.Have them look away and rub stick pad.
5.Adjust dial very slowly for them moving it back and forth.
6.Have them say somthing like"there" or anything else that is creative like "warmer" or "colder" when they feel a sensation.
7.When they feel somthing they should feel the same sensation close to that area.
8.When they feel somthing in different areas you must determine which spot is the real spot,which is wrong,and if it is even working.
9.Keep track of how many times they get it right and wrong once the correct tuning of the dial is found to show how well the machine worked.
10. After that you can change the iteams and keep track of were each iteam lands and see how accurate the machines are.

[Distortion plus]

Experiment 6
So I was jaming out with some freinds and showed them the machine I made. One of them critized it and said it wouldn't work. I said that it dosn't matter if you believe in it or not, if it works for you it will. I started testing all the way up to number 8 of my method. He said he felt a strange static sensation in a certain area, looked like around 25 which was the same reading my sister gave me for a penny. He also gave a read out at 100. We were leaving some were and I had to stop the experiment. It did creep him out, and he did feel foolish for doubting that it could work.

Also since I didn't have a crayon I redrew it useing, out of all things a ORANGE highlighter

[Slave of the Beast]

Thank you for posting your method Distortion. A few questions/suggestions I have are:

1)What exactly is meant by "analyze", and "where each object lands"? I've read various uses for the machine, but I'm not entirely sure what is being tested in this experiment. That the presence of a particular object will create a sensation at the same "frequency" each time in the same area of the stick pad?

2)Have you considered using the double blind technique? In this case it could be applied using a blank sheet of paper vs. a "machine", with the subject blindfolded with white noise/static playing through a pair of earphones. Or at the very least earplugs, actually these may be better in terms of being less distracting. This would eliminate any possible 'suggestion' you may be giving the subject, consciously or otherwise. A tap on the arm could be used to indicate stop and start, as you switch the paper over. The object will have to be placed in exactly the same place on the blank paper as on the machine. There can be no variables other than the fact that the paper is blank.

3)Ideally you need to start recording the number of hits and misses, and define very strictly what constitutes one or the other. That way the results can be statistically analyzed to determine whether they indicate more than mere chance occurence. I know this may seem tedious, but it will allow you to accurately compare tests and the effects of any variables between experiments (not within them!), without failing victim to slips of memory or generalizations.

Please don't take these points as criticism of your personal judgement or intelligence, they're simply standard practice. I would personally be very interested to see the combined outcomes of number 2 and 3.

I hope you find them useful.

[Distortion plus]

Thank you for posting your method Distortion. A few questions/suggestions I have are:

1)What exactly is meant by "analyze", and "where each object lands"? I've read various uses for the machine, but I'm not entirely sure what is being tested in this experiment. That the presence of a particular object will create a sensation at the same "frequency" each time in the same area of the stick pad?

2)Have you considered using the double blind technique? In this case it could be applied using a blank sheet of paper vs. a "machine", with the subject blindfolded with white noise/static playing through a pair of earphones. Or at the very least earplugs, actually these may be better in terms of being less distracting. This would eliminate any possible 'suggestion' you may be giving the subject, consciously or otherwise. A tap on the arm could be used to indicate stop and start, as you switch the paper over. The object will have to be placed in exactly the same place on the blank paper as on the machine. There can be no variables other than the fact that the paper is blank.

3)Ideally you need to start recording the number of hits and misses, and define very strictly what constitutes one or the other. That way the results can be statistically analyzed to determine whether they indicate more than mere chance occurence. I know this may seem tedious, but it will allow you to accurately compare tests and the effects of any variables, without failing victim to slips of memory or generalizations.

Please don't take these points as criticism of your personal judgement or intelligence, they're simply standard practice. I would personally be very interested to see the combined outcomes of number 2 and 3.

I hope you find them useful.

1. Some of the words I use are just used to express things that are happening. All that is being tested with these experiments is if people are feeling somthing when they rub the stick pad for various iteams. Where they feel it on the stick pad has no relevance. What is important however is that they are geting the same read out or frequency on the number scale which is were the "dial lands on". Also different types of machines can heal, tell you someones health, kill bugs/ parisites, help you locate things, answer questions, influnce others and other things which I guess can be left to your own imagination. There is a lot of ethics to consider when useing these types of machines because they can like many of things be misused. But just about all of these machines require a "witness"


2.I actually have gave some of those ideas some thought. I probably could show them the machine and then have them look away and use a blank sheet of paper with or without the dial on it to see what happens. What keeps me from doing this was somthing I saw on a show once were they turned a Ouija board upside down with out the person knowing because they were blind folded. The person would move his hands to blank areas of the board were the the yes and no were. Basicly it is in the persons mind but it still should be tested. I also could try useing earplugs but wont do it any time soon because I am barly begining these experiments.

3.I have been useing a system for hits and misses but havn't been recording them correctly yet. Basicly the frequency of the iteam must be found. Once found when they say they feel anything anywere else it is a miss. If they feel anything near the frequency it is a hit. This leaves a large area for them to miss making any hits significant.

Experiments 1-4 were based on memory and generalizations.
Experiment 5 had only 1 miss and many hits.. don't remember how many maybe around 6-10.
Experiment 6 was based just on the sensation the person felt because we didn't determin the frequency.

[Distortion plus]

Experiment 7

So experiment 7 was different from the machines I have been working on. I won 2 scatchers in a row. first 20 dollars and then 50 and decided to try and make a machine that could find winning tickets. I drew up the idea and got allmost as much hits as misses and lost out on 4 dollars. I may put the picture of the machine on here later.

[Distortion plus]

Experiment 8

Had another cousin of mine test a dime. He got 14 hits and 1 miss. We also started looking away two and made sure to rotate the dial at the same speed. When I wasn't looking at the board he wasn't geting any read outs but we stoped this part of the experiment to early

Experiment 9

I tested out the machine and had my cousin move the dial for me and log how I did. At first I got 3 hits, then I got mixed read outs. And a lot of misses. I decided that I am going to quit doing experiments with my machine and focus more on the Hieronoymous Machine. If i do , do any more testing it will be with both of us looking away to see if their is any influence their. If there is it would have to be telepathic or somthing like that because nothing else could really explain it.