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NumB-nUTz
2003-04-27, 20:22
Ive seen these on some site and it pictured someone punching and making shit loads of cracks and dents in a brick wall. Is this possible?
IcEColdPlaYA
2003-04-27, 20:28
I would think that lead would be too soft to do much damage to a wall, but the momentum of them would seriously mess up someones face.
NumB-nUTz
2003-04-27, 20:28
erm ouch?
ScarFace X
2003-04-28, 00:27
You better make your hits count, cuz i doubt you could get many punches until you were really tired, lead is pretty heavy.
beatmeofficer
2003-04-28, 00:39
Seems like it would slow down your punches a lot. I doubt it would increase the amount of energy behind them.
IcEColdPlaYA
2003-04-28, 00:52
They would probably be like small boxing gloves. If you are strong already, then they wouldnt be a problem. I think there would be more energy behind a punch with them. It is like a bullet. You shoot a same caliber bulet out of the same gun, but one bullet heavier than the other, the heavier bullet will have more energy, even though it moves slower.
Sick n Twisted asshole
2003-04-28, 07:37
You know what I saw was a glove with titanium sheets inserted into only the knuckle area of the fingers. Titanium is lighter than lead and it would probably do better for your face crunching pleasures. They were like $50.00 however. I don't remember where I saw them but you should look around on the internet.
Brassknuckles are street punching gloves to me, thats all you need to brake someones mouth easely.
NumB-nUTz
2003-04-30, 21:26
nah brass knuckles get you screwed if u are caught with em. at least with these I can say that it was cold out or sumfin
Dian_Wei
2003-05-01, 10:34
Lead punching glove now thats and interesting idea, i would assume that the weight of the lead would slow down the punch but also the weight of the lead would make a devestating impact onto someones face or ribs. Infact i may build a pair.
quote:Originally posted by NumB-nUTz:
nah brass knuckles get you screwed if u are caught with em.
You could use a carabiner or what ever its called, and say it's your keychain if you get caught. :)
havocdaemon
2003-05-03, 05:47
this is an awesome idea!! I love it! Im taking my old leather gloves, and im putting sheet metal into the knuckle area! Ive been thinking about it sorta half dreamlike for awhile...but now im motivated!
Joesmokes911
2003-05-03, 19:47
Don't some also have powdered metal in them? Those are supossedly more effective. Also, on one site(some cheapass self-defense site)they has those, but with powdered steel inside, and said they had better impact and were safer(steel is not toxic). Not sure if they are more effective though.
Joe
Joesmokes911
2003-05-03, 22:17
Well, after a long time of work, grinding up black steel fittings and pipeing with my trusty 4" angle grinder, I have....only 30 grams of powder http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif) It takes a buttload of time ovbiously. That is only a little more than an ounce, and I want about 16 ounces http://www.totse.com/bbs/eek.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/eek.gif) of the stuff. Also, is lead hevier than iron?
Joe
IcEColdPlaYA
2003-05-03, 23:13
Lead is a lot heavier than iron.
Joesmokes911
2003-05-03, 23:23
quote:Originally posted by IcEColdPlaYA:
Lead is a lot heavier than iron.
So would it be really impractical to use finley powdered steel powder(not galvanized) because it would take so much to make it way that much? If I was not as lazy and wanted the best quality, I would use powdered tungistun(sp?)from united nuclear. But I am, so I won't.
Joe
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IcEColdPlaYA
2003-05-03, 23:30
Bismuth from UN is also very heavy, heavier than lead.
You can use steel, it will do as much damage, but is harder than lead, so it might hurt your hands (and the other person) more than lead would.
NumB-nUTz
2003-05-04, 00:14
i read pn the site about the gloves - each one has 8 oz of steel shot in the knuckle area
Joesmokes911
2003-05-05, 02:04
quote:Originally posted by IcEColdPlaYA:
Bismuth from UN is also very heavy, heavier than lead.
You can use steel, it will do as much damage, but is harder than lead, so it might hurt your hands (and the other person) more than lead would.
Oops. I meant bismuth. Anyway, grinding the steel to a very fire powder is hard work, because it takes so damn long, but I now have 3oz. of it. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif) I was thinking about havind some sort of small pouch attached to a string or rope at the top of it. The pouch will be filled with the powdered steel. It will ovbiously be swung around.
Joe
IcEColdPlaYA
2003-05-05, 03:12
I filled a sock with 20 .50 caliber lead musket shot, and tied it off at the end. I never used it, but it will take down anyone with just one hit to the face.
Joesmokes911
2003-05-05, 23:02
quote:Originally posted by IcEColdPlaYA:
I filled a sock with 20 .50 caliber lead musket shot, and tied it off at the end. I never used it, but it will take down anyone with just one hit to the face.
So is my pouch idea worthless then?
Joe
IcEColdPlaYA
2003-05-05, 23:04
What would the pouch be made of. It would need to be really strong to stand the momentum created when you are swinging a 1/2 pound of lead around, and will also need to be tough so it will last a long time.
steppenwolf
2003-05-05, 23:48
a) use leather for the bag/pouch, if you want to... it's one of the few things that will be able to stand up to the abuse.
b) don't use a grinder, use a file or rotary burr (or bandsaw, maybe...) something that takes chips off, not powder. you're probably getting mixed steel and wheel grit, which isn't what you want.
c) the difference in weight is basically irrelevant... it might actually be better to use brass filings, because brass is easier to get filings off of. none will hurt your hand any more or less (in powdered form, at least, and probably not in sheet form), because a punch doesn't approach the deformation strength for lead or steel.
that's about it
--w
Brass knucles? Umm aren't you talking about paper weights?
ThetaReactor
2003-05-06, 14:08
I would think the powdered metals would only be useful as added weight, and possibly a bit of extra energy transfer. Perhaps you'd do better using lightweight plates to provide a hard surface, or using the heavier metals in powder form. Maybe put tubes of mercury in for that energy transfer http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
jodevilgod1
2003-05-06, 16:30
The lead gloves arent that heavy. They protect the knuckles and in turn, increase the amount of damage you can do with your fist without harming your hand. If you are worried about them slowing down your punch, you practice punching with 10 puond dumbells in your hand.
NumB-nUTz
2003-05-07, 22:56
Ive started making some so i might post up the plans if anyone wants them.
VincentVega1687
2003-05-08, 00:07
I have this one teacher who is really into midevil stuff, so he had ordered some chainmail gloves(I think thats how it's spelled). these things were awesome. I hit my friend who is kind of a body builder in the arm with it and it left a huge bruise. I felt not alot when I hit him and it didn't really slow down my punch. also the gloves had sheet metal going down the sides. so you could block punches and stuff.
Vince
Flamin_Pyro
2003-06-08, 04:46
im making my own sap gloves, im taking sorta bmx gloves that have a rubbery grip on the top of the fingers all im doing is cutting the top of the glove at the knuckle and adding fabric to protect my knuckle then inserting 2 metal plates and a flat marble type glass thing its really strong and i couldnt even break it with a hammer then im sowing the gloves back up, i got one finished and i punched my friends wall and left 4 huge marks from the indent of the flat glass bead thing about / / deep. i like em alot, you cant even tell any thing is in em unless you see em up close the have 4 little bumps in em
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notahick
2003-06-09, 02:36
if you want to go to the effort, you could build a set of interlocking and sliding sheetmetal panels that form fit to each hand. Probably want to put a little padding underneath and then dissect a pair of leather gloves and reassemble them on top.
If you want just pure weight, then the best bt is tungsten fishing weights (its used as ballast by formula1 teams to make weight) the only heavier thing that i know of is depleted uranium which is not exactly easy to find